Love the Dreams
I have seen similar sports movies in India and Hollywood. But the acting in this takes the cream of the rest.1st of Oh Jung Se what a versatile actor. I saw Ok not to be ok 1st and I thought wow what dedication to the role of Moong Tae obviously it is not easy to perform that role. Then I saw him here and he made me hate his character. Now that is acting just briliant. Looking forward to seeing more of hi is work
Nam haha I got hooked to the series because of his 1st episode what cool headedness. His dialogue delivery was just briliant everything felt like a punch line. The director used him briliant
Nam and Oh Jung complimented each other perfectly. It was like 2 sides of the same coin.
Park Eun was the filter between these 2 strong deliveries she was dedicated to the role and did a complete justice to her role. I have not seen any of her other works but definitely check.
All in all an excellent watch don't miss it out
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It' a very smart drama, the plot has enough consistency to be interesting, and the twists are very well thought but explained clearly and simply enough to keep the viewer in the loop.
You dont need to even remotly like or know about baseball to like this drama, because the point is not how players throw a ball but how to keep a team together.
It wasn't too slow and even though the story could have gotten repetitive, it didn't.
The acting was absolutely amazing, i also particulary like the leads who are, in evey drama i've seen them in, talented and versatile.
I loved how the "bad guy" wasn't the embodiement of evil like usual, but more a career-driven buisnessman with a childhood trauma which screwed up his sense of priorities and who had to think about money first 'cause that was his job.
A very human, entertaining and well played drama !
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I seriously wished there were more episodes after episode 16. I was hoping since a new character was introduced in epi 16 (the new owner of Dreams).
I think there may be a second season brewing...fingers crossed!
Thank you! Thoroughly enjoyed each and every episode.
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Fast-paced political drama
I started watching Hot Stove League just last week from my friend's recommendation, largely because it just won Baeksang award of Best Drama in 2020. I was extremely impressed with My Mister, which won the very same award last year.And I'm not disappointed! I went through all 16 episodes in just four days!
This is not a romantic comedy that follows standard K-Drama patterns, it is a fast-paced political struggles with convincing plots and people interactions. There were some characters' decisions that, at first, I didn't think they made sense, but was OK once their true intention revealed.
I particularly love Oh Jung Se acting. He could express his internal conflicts through his eyes and voice. I was also impressed with his acting in "It's OK to Not Be OK."
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Great Story, Acting, and Refreshing
I believe this drama deserves a higher rating on MDL, every episode left me wanting to watch more. Note that there is no romance in this drama; I found that quite refreshing. The story was really well done, there were a lot of twists and turns. There were no characters that were frustrating, except for the antagonist, but in kdramas what antagonist isn't frustrating? There wasn't any unnecessary dragging, everything was pretty realistic to me, a person who knows absolotely nothing about baseball. Overall, I gave this drama a 10, but the rewatch score being low. I don't think this is a show you can rewatch. It isn't a light-hearted show that one usually would watch.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
Top tier sports-politics
99.9% politics, 0.1% gameplay. I expected a sports, gameplay driven drama but it's mostly political. This may sound discouraging but it's actually the strongest part of the show. It's engaging, very well written masterpiece.You will feel like part of the stove league post season improvement throughout the show. Every episode tackles all the problems (the reasons they keep losing every year) and important part that leads to the overall improvement of the team, not just the baseball team but most especially the internal people that make up the whole dream team. It's something that you will cherish as you near the end.
It's so refreshing to see a show that let us see what happens internally in a sports team. What can I say? it's certainly chaotic!
Nam Goongmin is an excellent actor. His role as the General Manager was very convincing. Everyone did their part harmoniously.
This is an excellently well-written drama that even for people who don't usually like sports (like me) will surely enjoy.
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Good office drama in the world of sports
A breath of fresh air, Stove League is a good choice if you want a change of pace from romcoms, suspense crime thrillers, medical, and supernatural kdramas. Stove league is more about office politics in the world of baseball. It doesn't have a lot of the actual playing baseball scenes to be honest. It's about how a smart and competent manager, who may came off as rude and unfeeling turns around the Dreams team as last place in the stove league.
Payoff is satisfying as you feel as you've been with Manager Baek and his group go through every hurdle and surpass it. Nam Goong Min gave a more controlled but still solid performance as competent manager Baek Soo. What a solid cast, from very familiar faces we've all seen as amazing character actors from other dramas.
I've been wanting to watch Park Eun Bin for a long time, and she doesn't disappoint. Her aura is so endearing and earnest. I really need to see more of her dramas, and hope she will have more main roles in the future. What I'm surprised is Jo Byung Kyoo. He is so charming and entertaining as comical Jae Hee. I can't wait to see him as lead in Uncanny Encounter. He is just so animated on screen, and watching him banter with Park Eun Bin is a delight.
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It is soo goooood!
I love it. I was hooked from the first episode. I love the trio and specially Namkoong…he nailed his character as always. It was great to watch their journey and how they all come together as one.The story was great and I love the love/hate bromance between Seung Soo and Know Kyung specially towards the end.
You can definitely watch the drama even you know nothing about baseball as it is not really a sport drama. Its about build the team back to his glory and trying to beat all the obstacles that comes in a way. I love the ending….it would be interesting to see his next project.
To be honest I did not expected to be soo good. Not sure why I was surprised as again Namkoong slayed the role!!
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Inspiring story about hardwork, passion and leadership
Starting watching on Sunday, kept hitting "next episode" until i realized i was almost done with the show! If i didnt go out on Monday, i probably would have finished this in 2 days 😅Likes
1. Amazing performance not just of Namgoong Min but from everyone - the management, the head office, and the players. Each episode focused one 1 to 2 persons' stories and how Baek was able to help and resolve the problem.
2. I only have basic knowledge of baseball so didn't really understand the stats, but it didn't really matter because the whole point is more on how a manager was able to successful transform a low performing team to a champion. It's not just how he worked, but how he influenced the people around him to become better versions of themselves.
3. You can pick up some tips on how to manage difficult people and how to deal with difficult negotiations, Baek Seung Soo is so good at it, i wonder why he is not a hot commodity. I guess they are uneasy with his unorthodox thinking.
4. I especially loved the episodes about Gil Chang Ju, Baek's brother and Lim Dong gyu's redemption. But i didnt like episode 15, i thought it was too much and episode 16 was too simple for a finale.
Dislikes
1. If the plan was to disband the team from the very start, it didn't really make sense to bring a new GM and approve of all his changes. It then feels like all his efforts will just be a waste of time and the best players will all end up team-less. I wish the objective was very clear frim episode 1 - if he can't fix the team before the season then they will disband.
2. I wish we saw more efforts from Seungsoo to look for a buyer all throughout the show. The ending was easily resolved with just 1 company agreeing to buy the team after just 2 meetings. To think Director spent years looking for a buyer.
Other than that, everything else was terrific.
Rating: 9/10
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Superb story, cast and performance.
Namkoong Min is a powerhouse and literally steals the show. Perhaps I am biased, but he stands head and shoulders above most other actors in the genre. He plays his role to absolute perfection and I can't think of anyone else who'd be a better cast for the role of Manager Baek Seung Soo. His ability to stay cool amidst great turmoil, manage great difficulties with delicate smoothness, and come out successful, this is just another level of performance. When he takes the stage, there's no line between the actor and the performance. He is one of those rare actors who *IS* the role, the character, the story and you can thoroughly feel the realness in his work.Park Eun Bin also plays her role perfectly, and I expected no less after watching her breathtaking performance in "Extraordinary Attorney Woo".
The story itself is nuanced with a lot of strong character development, with every episode showing us just a little more insight into the nature of the people in the drama. And yes, it's a drama about power struggles and politics, not just sports. It's also a tale of grit and determination in the face of repeated odds, about negotiation and compromise, making hard choices and doing the right thing. I thoroughly enjoyed this series.
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Meh league
1. You don't need to know baseball to enjoy it, true, but it certainly helps. Especially in episode 11 when they play a game and I was all confused.2. The mc is a gary stu, he's always right, he has almost supernatural foresight, his plans always work. Thus the drama's episodic "problem of the week" formula has no tension because you know it will always work out in mc's favor.
3. The players are very one dimensional, maybe except one renegade. The staff has better characterization, but it all goes to drain in final episodes when they basically hold their hands and sing kumbaya. At multiple occasions.
4. The mc would be a villain in most dramas. Are we really supposed to believe that management who wants to cut costs of unprofitable team are the "bad guys"?
5. Which leads us to the repetitive formula. Everything is going fine----->management cuts budget---->mc comes up with a cheaper and ultimately more effective solution----->everyone congratulates him, except his boss who is pissed that he got outdone again (instead of being happy of getting two birds with one stone)
Ngl, I got bored in second half, but eventually forced myself to finish. The direction and acting are good, but it's not a masterpiece many people praise it as.
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