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never fail

this one big project from GMMTV indeed a great one. Boys Over Flower franchise always reach top notch i guess. each country, each version, whenever they remake it, it become big. love it how F4 quality, ability and uniqueness is different from each version but it still stay in the line. imagine all F4 actors from every version have an event together, Wow it will be a blast!
story wise for thai version, the changing of concern in their family is good enough. also the chosen actor & actresses also really did great for each role.
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la meilleure surprise 2022!

A peine les derniers secondes terminées, un sentiment de bonheur teinté de tristesse me fait bondir jusqu’à mon clavier.
Vous partager ces émotions que ce drama a su étonnement faire vibrer en la blasée que je suis.
Etonnant, mais c’est mon premier drama thaïlandais. La chance du débutant sûrement, pour une première fois, cela fut une réussite totale.
Etonnant, j’ai vu presque toutes les versions de « Hana Yori Dango » en passant par le manga et possédant les OST des versions coréenne et chinoise. Inutile de vous préciser que je suis donc une fan de cette histoire, et ma préférence allait jusqu’à aujourd’hui vers la version coréenne (un de mes premiers drama).
Etonnant donc d’avoir pu rire. Sourire bêtement. Alors que je connaissais par coeur cette histoire.
Moralité, peu importe le nombre de cliché.
Peu importe de savoir réciter les scènes en choeur.
Quand c’est bien fait.
Quand c’est bien joué…
… Oui, j’ai adoré cette version.
Oui, ce fut un tel coup de coeur que je n’ai pu attendre pour venir en parler.
Oui, c’est désormais ma version préférée… (mais je t’aime toujours Lee Min Ho).

1 : La réalisation !
Magnifique ! J’ai été totalement bluffée par la qualité de la réalisation, digne d’un drama coréen. Soignée et fluide, les scènes s’enchainent, avec un sans faute, à un rythme soutenu et sans temps mort. La façon de créer le suspense et l’angoisse lors des premières scènes de harcèlement est gérée d’une main de maître ! Nous ressentons lors du premier épisode (et les autres scènes de Gorya au prise avec cette carte rouge) la tension des scènes d’une façon viscérale, retenant le souffle durant la course poursuite. Les scènes de violences sont percutantes et d’un réalisme qui font froid dans le dos. Sincèrement si je ne connaissais pas l’histoire, j’aurais eu du mal à croire que Thyme puisse changer…
La photographie est magnifique, mettant en valeur les paysages thaïlandais, les personnages, les voitures, les costumes. Le jeu des lumières et des contrastes accentue la romance comme le côté dramatique.
Sincèrement, chapeau bas pour cette réalisation parfaite. L’OST n’est certes pas aussi joli et entêtant que celle de
« Boys over flower » (le drama reprend d’ailleurs le thème principal du drama) ou de "Meteor Garden", mais elle est pertinente et intensifie les moments tragiques comme les moments drôles et émotionnels. J’ai aimé aussi les petits bruitages qui soulignent les moments absurdes ou drôles, bien que d’habitude cela me fasse grincer des dents, ici l’utilisation de ces bruitages n’est pas en redondance et intervient souvent au bon moment.
Petite mention pour les costumes de Thyme, qui reflètent bien sa personnalité, des couleurs flirtant avec le drôle et le bling bling renforçant le côté loufoque (et choupinet) du personnage.

2 : L’histoire !
Nous la connaissons tous par coeur, nous savons exactement ce qui va se passer, il n’y a alors pas d’effet de surprise… et pourtant !
Le drama a été dépoussiéré magistralement. J’ai pris un plaisir fou à suivre les aventures des F4 et de nos deux héroïnes. Le réalisateur a su donner une sacrée touche de modernité notamment en donnant vie aux personnages autrement que dans les anciennes versions.
Résultat, une histoire aux milles clichés qui sonnent en nous comme une belle leçon de vie.
L’introduction du drama dans le premier épisode symbolise cette leçon de vie, un mélange de poésie et de philosophie. Les pensées de Gorya apportent cette touche de « recul philosophique », donnant ainsi une dimension nouvelle aux sentiments de nos protagonistes.
Si bien sûr, nous retrouvons l’archétype classique du héros riche, enfant pourri et insupportable faisant face à une héroïne pauvre et se battant pour s’en sortir, le traitement de leur histoire rend leur romance émouvante mais aussi, grandiose. Rapidement, le spectateur que nous sommes ressentons de l’effroi et de l’émotion en passant par une bonne dose d’humeur joviale contagieuse.
Le drama touche à des thèmes sensibles comme le harcèlement et la violence à l’école. A travers ces violences, plusieurs remises en question se posent à travers le regard complice de Gorya ou la soumission passive des membres des F4 dans les premiers épisodes. C’est aussi un regard acéré sur les préjugés des riches versus pauvres qui ont été lentement détricoté afin de nous faire comprendre que peu importe le statut, l’être humain n’agit pas en fonction de sa propre situation mais plutôt de la situation de la personne que nous avons en face de nous. Ce sont des sentiments qui explosent face à une crise et qui transforment les humains en monstre, non pas par ce que c’est écrit. Non pas par ce que nous le voulons.
Mais par ce que nous avons mal.
Par ce que la seule réponse que notre corps, notre cerveau apportent à cette souffrance est de faire du mal en retour.
Est-ce justifiable? non.
Est-ce normal? oui.
Peut-on encore changer? oui.
Peut-on encore se faire pardonner? oui.
C’est aussi la magie de ce drama. Le regard qui dévoile petit à petit pour finir par chercher la rédemption. Je n’ai pas souvenir que les autres versions aient donné une place aussi importante à tout cela, et c’est donc avec un regard nouveau que j’ai découvert la version thaïlandaise.

3 : Les personnages.
Je n’ai jamais été fan des F4 (ce qui est contradictoire puisque j’ai toujours aimé l’histoire…).
Mais ici, le drama donne une lumière nouvelle sur Ren et Kavin, ou même le discret MJ. Si dans les précédentes versions les sentiments qui s’en dégageaient oscillaient entre désintéressement et agacement, dans cette version, j’ai adoré les voir interagir entre eux, en demandant toujours toujours plus.

Ren nous apparait donc plus souriant et bien moins indifférent. Son affection envers Gorya est d’une telle sincérité que j’ai même eu cette pensée, plus d’une fois, qu’il irait bien avec elle. Ses traits d’humour et ses petites répliques qui faisaient souvent mouche nous l’ont rendu plus accessible et moins « prince charmant que l’on regarde de loin ». Son amitié avec Gorya m’a beaucoup touché, la progression naturelle de leur relation y est surement pour beaucoup. L’amitié entre lui et les autres membres des F4, et plus spécialement Thyme, est ponctuée d’humour reflétant une loyauté solide.

Kavin est le coup de coeur de ma fille. Je n’irai pas le lui reprocher (bien que je sois Team Thyme). Si dans les précédentes versions, il était de loin celui qui m’agaçait le plus, j’ai été sincèrement touchée par son personnage ici. Restant toujours le même Don Juan, il est aussi sensiblement bien plus humain, plus accessible. Ses interactions avec Kaning étaient adorables et leur amitié qui se laissait peu à peu glisser vers autre chose de plus profond d’autant plus rafraîchissante que leur complicité explosait à chaque rencontre. Sincèrement, je regrette pour une fois que la romance secondaire soit si peu visible….

Nous savons que MJ n’est pas le personnage sur qui l’attention se porte, et je le regrette. C’est un personnage attachant et dont l’amitié envers ses amis n’est plus à prouver. Il est le personnage tampon nécessaire, ne prenant parti pour personne et essayant tant bien que mal d’équilibrer la balance lorsque ses amis entrent inévitablement en conflit. Et puis il est team Gorya, et il ne s’en cachera pas, un personnage des plus adorables!
On meurt d’en savoir un peu plus et c’est bien dommage que MJ n’ait pas une place plus importante. Bien que les petits bonus de fin nous donnent une petite vision de la vie privée de MJ, j’aurai aimé que ce personnage ait plus de présence à l’écran….

Et du côté des autres personnages? J’ai beaucoup aimé Kaning (alors que je ne l’aimais pas beaucoup dans les autres versions), personnage féminin calme et posée à l’opposé de son amie Gorya, loyale dont la sincérité indéfectible envers son amie, les F4 et surtout Kavin m’ont fait oublier les autres versions, m’ont fait oublier que je l’avais toujours trouvé fade et ennuyante, m’ont fait espérer de toutes mes forces la voir franchement réunie avec Kavin. Sacrebleu, je peux compter sur les doigts d’une main le nombre de fois où j’ai attendu le bisous concrétisant une romance follement attendu du couple secondaire!

Je ne pourrais tous les citer, mais les personnages secondaires ont été travaillés minutieusement et ont apporté un vrai gros plus à ce drama, un angle différent comme la mère de Thym, une touche d’émotion et d’humour comme les parents et le frère de Gorya, ou comme Gawao le propriétaire de la boutique de fleurs, ou bien encore Thalay et son histoire à fendre le coeur, les 3 pestes plus humaines qu’on ne le pense, la beauté à couper le souffle de Mira, Hana et sa folie émouvante et finalement la lutine et touchante Lita…

4 : Sûrement la plus importante de toutes : Gorya et Thyme….
La romance de nos deux tourtereaux a été un enchantement à chaque minute! La complicité entre ces deux là a été époustouflante, nous faisant zigzaguer du rire au larme en passant par le battement désordonné du coeur. J’ai toujours trouvé que Shan Cai (version chinoise) et Jan Di (version coréenne) avaient été parfois ennuyantes avec leurs principes extrêmes, où l’impression de rejeter Goo Joon Pyo/Dao Ming Si provenait plus souvent de leur différence de statut. L’attitude de Gorya est ici bien différent. Pas dans le fond, mais dans la gesture et l’expression de son visage. Bien que parfois agacée par Thyme, on pouvait lire souvent de la tendresse dans son regard, dans son micro sourire….et cela change tout. Gorya ici n’a jamais reproché à Thyme son environnement et sa richesse, préférant le houspiller comme lorsqu’il lui achète un nouveau téléphone ou un nouveau scooter. Bien sûr, elle passera par le stade un peu obligé du « je ne suis pas assez bien pour toi, mais elle (la rivale) oui ». Contrairement aux autres versions, la souffrance de Gorya, ses angoisses proviennent bien du désir profond de vouloir rester avec Thyme, de ne pas vouloir lui porter préjudice, de le protéger. J’en ai eu les larmes aux yeux lorsque Ren lui assène tout simplement face à son refus de le reconnaître « Tu ne peux pas m’accepter car Thyme est ta maison » dans l’avant dernier épisode, cela résume vraiment ce que représente Thyme. Il est sa maison, son monde, son tout. Nous le ressentons vraiment. Elle n’a jamais refusé que Thyme soit riche et gâté. Dans cette version, Gorya accepte tous les côtés de Thyme et son amour pour lui est d’une simplicité désarmante. Il faut avouer aussi que le caractère de Gorya a beaucoup apporté dans leur relation. Forte et déterminée, elle a une sacrée répartie et ses chamailleries avec Thyme sont ultra adorables. Si j’ai horreur des couples qui se battent sans cesse et ayant des disputes tous les deux épisodes, ici, ce fut le contraire. Que de passion durant leur échange, que de douleur durant leur dispute, rendant les moments d’intimité et de complicité encore plus grands, encore plus émouvants, encore plus drôles. Mais si Gorya a été une héroïne émouvante et attachante de par sa force de caractère, j’ai été encore plus touchée par Thyme…tout comme Gorya, j’en suis tombée amoureuse.

La violence de Thyme cache cette souffrance qui ne demandait qu’à être découverte, à être pansée. Nous découvrons peu à peu la solitude derrière les caprices de Thyme, son désir d’être simplement aimé pour ce qu’il est, son envie d’une famille simple, unie et chaleureuse. Les scènes où il demande humblement le pardon de ses actes envers ses victimes m’ont remué. L’acceptation de ses erreurs et la responsabilité qu’il voulait endosser ont rendu Thyme bien plus humain que ses victimes. Détrompez-vous, je ne cautionne pas ses actes, ni ne me désintéresse des victimes. Seulement, Thyme nous prouve ici que ce qui découle de sa douleur et de sa frustration n’est autre que les actions de ce qui l’entoure. Thalay nous le démontre magistralement aussi, car il est le reflet de ce qu’était Thyme avant sa rencontre avec Gorya. Il était intéressant de voir ce parallèle, ce décalage entre l’ancien Thyme et le nouveau Thyme. Le personnage cristallise ainsi toutes les émotions autour de lui. La haine. Le mépris. La peur. Mais aussi. L’amour. L’amitié. La tendresse.

Le personnage de Thyme ne m’a pas eu seule fois fait ressentir la désagréable impression d’un homme immature dont les actions seraient toutes plus infantiles les unes que les autres. J’ai encore en mémoire certains protagonistes d’une lourdeur insupportable, et j’avoue, Dao Ming Si (version chinoise) se rapprochait de ce type de personnage…
Les actions de Thyme d’un premier abord « immatures » étaient sincèrement touchantes et drôles, désamorçant le sentiment ennuyant du type qui courre inlassablement après la nana comme un pot de colle. Au contraire, ses tentatives de séduction teintées d’arrogances prêtaient à sourire pour au final faire battre mon petit coeur. Le meilleur Domyoji selon moi!
Sa relation avec Gorya est d’un naturel époustouflant. La complicité spontanée des deux protagonistes est dévoilée à chacune de leurs interactions. C’était tellement visible que personne n’a pu s’y tromper. Que cela soit durant leur sempiternelle chamaillerie ou dialogue, cela pétille sans arrêt et nous sommes tour à tour attendris et amusés. Voir Gorya gronder Thyme toutes les deux minutes pour la voir ensuite rougir face à un Thyme taquin ou la voir désabusée par les fautes, écrites ou le parlé de Thyme rendaient les moments de nos tourtereaux encore plus additives.

Si je devais élire réellement le couple le plus adorable de l’année 2022, mon coeur oscillerais entre Thyme/Gorya et Lin Bei Xing/Zhang Wan Sen (Shining for one thing)….

Inutile de le dire, mais l’amitié entre Gorya et Kaning ou les F4 fut un enchantement. J’ai senti tous ces petits détails qui rendent leur relation d’autant plus forte. Ces moments de solidarité et ces moments de complicité nous sont démontrés tout au long des épisodes avec force. Cela m’a fait presque de la peine de devoir les quitter, c’est un peu quitter des amis à la fin des vacances…

Ma dernière pensée? Le jeu des acteurs qui m’a totalement bluffé. Je ne connais bien sur personne ici mais avec ce drama, la barre a été placé très haute. Tu Tontawan Tantivejakul est une actrice qui m’a séduite dès les premières secondes. J’ai adoré voir une actrice qui sans être « belle » a su dégager une séduction incroyable. Son jeu fut extrêmement touchant, son interprétation de Gorya d’une justesse parfaite !

Quant à Bright Vachirawit Chivaaree….je dirais : Sacrément beau gosse au sourire à renverser les foules, un jeu parfait que cela soit dans le comique ou le dramatique…. ce petit prodige est entré directement dans mon top 10 (je ne peux plus réduire mon top, il y a foule maintenant haha) et c’est avec impatience que j’attend son prochain rôle.

Un drama qui mêle habilement une romance intense et attachante à un humour finement dosé, une très belle amitié, ne donnant jamais l’impression de faire passer les protagonistes pour des pitres en puissance, des protagonistes intelligemment écrits et attrayants, orchestré d’une main de maitre par un réalisateur qui a su donner une dynamique certaine soutenue par une bande son agréable. Et cerise sur le gâteau, une jolie philosophie de la vie….

Ce fut donc une sacré bonne surprise. Une surprise dont je ne me lasserai jamais!

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NOT THE BEST ADAPTATION! BUT DEFINITELY NOT THE WORST!

F4 Thailand: Boys Over Flowers may not be the best adaptation of the original piece but its definitely not the worst at all. Everybody know the story of a young heroine, being bullied for her class in society, but turned into Ms. Popular after a series of event had favored her way after 4 popular school bullies encountered and noticed her different ways. San chai (Meteor Garden), Geum Jan Di (Boys over Flowers- Korea) and now, Gorya has captured the heart not just the most popular celebrity/bully in their school, but also the hearts of the viewers and the follower of their story.

The Plot:
We can't deny the fact that since 2004 we have been in loved with the story and the plot of the original piece. I don't know about you guys, but it was 2004 for me when I watched Meteor Garden, and immediately fell in love in the story. As a fact, the story is not that perfect, it has its flaws. Especially, that it centers and focuses a lot in the most problematic events in the human history such as bullying, gaslighting, kidnapping, social class discrimination and more. However, we are encouraged to rise above it and realized that all of these problems can be rusticated from us when we choose to believe in ourselves and try to fight for justice and for our rights. That's what I have seen in the eyes of these young, strong and independent ladies. The fierce in their eyes, to correct what is wrong and to beat the system in legal ways, is the most promising thing that happened in the whole plot of the story. Plot-wise, I can really give it a good rating. Back to the Thailand version, i appreciated that they still kept the whole plot and the story from the previous version and tried to to make it their own. However, what I am missing is the touch of thailand culture. We may have a glimpse of one or two, of their culture in the show but I don't think its enough. It would be better if the show has added a lot of their culture in the story, yet they focused in the story of the original piece that they forgot to add some touch of their culture to the series. That is the only thing I am missing, but the whole plot of the thailand version is still acceptable and watchable, so I accepted it already.

The Characters:
Tu, Gorya's Actress. I can say that she really fit's the role. She executed the character so well. Still, there are some aspects that's not enough for me, especially when I try to compare her with the other ladies from the same franchise. I think what I needed is more like the badass aspect of Gorya. There's a scene from the series, where Gorya, had to kicked Thyme. That scene was phenomenal in every Meteor Garden franchise. The way San Chai (meteor garden) and Geum Jan Di (boys over flower - korea) is so badass that it will make you jump right from your seat to root for them. If I remembered it well, they did a flying kick (maybe) which is very badass. I was looking for it in the thailand version, but this version opted a simple kick, which is still acceptable. But knowing that it is the heroine's signature scene, where we understand who she really is, and what she really is (a badass), they could've made and edited that scene intensely to give more emphasis in the character of Gorya. But no worries, I already rose above it and accepted it.

The F4.
This! I can say that the F4 in thailand version is like DAMMMN! oooh! The VISUALS! I mean look-wise, they are the perfect F4 for me. Bright really fits Thyme role. The childish and immature man-child, really fits him well. I didn't expected that Bright would be great in that role but he did it. Of course, there's something lacking. Nobody is perfect. Through the sad scenes from Thyme, sorry, but I can really sympathize or atleast shed a tear for Thyme. I don't know why but I can't really see bright that sad when he cries. For me, when he do his sad face, I always see him as if he is smiling. I don't know why? I can't really see the sadness in his face. But his sad face is cute though, but not sad enough for me. In the bright side, his angry, and grumpy look is so hot. I think it balanced it out. Kudos!
Dew. Damn! Dew is hot, cute and just pure. I mean, it is a given that in Meteor Garden, I was rooting for the second lead too. But Dew, in this version, made me root for him more. His pure face! Well, he kind of did well as the second lead too. I can't really say that he is perfect, because his role doesn't need a lot of acting. His role is more like someone who has a mild autism, meaning that they don't really show emotion that greatly, but only show neutral face from time to time. But i believe he executed the entirety of his role well. Kudos!
Win and Nani! I mean, I ship them more than Gorya and Thyme. Win and Nani is just chaotic in this series. They look so good. Win with his formal looks! Wow! I was in loved with him in the 2gether series, and this made me love him more. Nani is so hot. with his hacking skills, and long hair. Damn! Kavin and MJ did a lot in this version. I can really see it that they are really involved. In the previous versions, we don't really get to see a lot of the 3rd and 4th member of F4, but here they did a lot. I was surprised, that I feel in love with the two over and over again. They did their role perfectly too. Being chaotic, and funny. Of course, there are cringe moments from time to time, but I am here for it. Kudos!
Prim. What a beautiful lady and soul. Of course, we can remember every heroine's bestfriends in the previous versions. Here, Kaning is unforgettable too. Prim, really fits the role. I already know that she is phenomenal and amazing, because I have seen her from time to time from other series. She is so beautiful too, that's why I cant forget her.
Cindy. Thyme's Mom! Of course, we need to talk about Thyme's mom. Since every previous version of the franchise. Always the awaited reveal is the mother. They always steal the show. ahaha.That's why we need to talk about her. She's not as intimidating as the other mothers from the previous version. but she is intimidating and charismatic enough. I mean she is beautiful too. and SCARY! I think the criteria of being the mom is to be as intimidating as ever, and as scary as ever, and she has that quality in her posture, in her face expressions and her gestures making her perfect for the role.

The Music. The music is perfect, especially the one who are sung by the F4. Fabulous! I can't really talk more about the music since I don't really understand it because I am not Thai. but the melody and the whole tune is satisfying enough for me to rate it high.

Overall. The quality of the series is quite high! I really recommend this series to all F4 fans from other versions. I think this is not the best version but still its not the worst. It has its best moments and Kudos to all the cast and crews who formed this series. I really enjoyed the series that much, especially as they are always feeding us with the visuals. KUDOS!

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Brilliant start with lost potential as the episodes progress

In terms of anticipation, for me, this was at an all-time high mainly because the cast was breathtakingly beautiful and the promotions were done right.

The plot is already well known, especially if you've watched at least one of the remakes. Every main storyline of the original is still present in the adaptation what changed was the direction chosen by the Thai writers. With a running time of 16 episodes, everything feels very rushed in the end. I also feel like they emphasize the development of unnecessary side stories. I think this may be the primary reason the show began to lose its potential after the first episodes. In the end, it felt very rushed and I feel like we didn't get more Thyme/Gorya scenes because of that.

The first half of the drama was very pleasing. I enjoyed how the bullying scenes were shot, it felt very realistic and not sugarcoated like the other remakes. Adding the aspect of social media made the drama even more approachable to the younger generation and added a new way of engagement with the audience.
I loved how Gorya's character is presented as a strong-minded girl, but that feeling started to disappear after the first episodes, I felt like her development slowed at times, and the screaming (at least to me) was annoying. Tu did a fantastic job, we can see very clearly her expressions and in the scenes where she needed to deliver (especially in the last episodes), she went for it and nailed it. For a rookie actress, she did better than most actors in the show and I believe her next works will be even better.

Thyme feels a certain way more empathic and caring than other interpretations I feel like its character could have had a broader development, but for me, he stayed the same from beginning to end. I neither liked nor disliked Bright approach to Thyme, he was great when it came to the sweet moments but his face and expressions were almost always the same when emotions had to come forward.
Both Tu and Bright had great chemistry, but because of the inclusion of many side stories, their relationship felt short and rushed. We don't see their feelings for each other grow naturally and in the end, their relationship consists of them beating each other (so much for fighting his bullying instinct Gorya).

F4 bromance is brilliant, they care for each other and just want the best for their friends.

The second half of the show is where things started to go downhill, they not only skip 1 year ahead just because, but they also tried to fit the best plot twist in 5-6 episodes, they completely forget other blooming relations (Kaning and Kavin) and add a ridiculous KFC commercial at the end of each episode so that MJ has a love line, basically killed the essence the first half gave us.

The star of this half is Cindy, she gave Roselyn the dept, aura, and charisma the character needed to surpass the messy script. She went above and beyond to break Gorya and Thyme even neglected to help her son get better, all of this only to let them be together so quickly in the end. For me, this is a big letdown comparing it to the Chinese and Korean where persuading the ML moms took a couple of episodes.
Another disappointment was Thyme's memory loss, the Thai version shows it all in the last episode, the other versions make it a bigger part of the plot, and here it's just thrown in to help with Roselyn's redemption.
The end felt very made at the last minute, I enjoyed the party Thyme gave her, but in my opinion, it was very simple, but the worst part was not having Kaning there. The writers completely forgot she existed in the last episodes so I was hoping to see her next to Kavin and consolidate their relationship but I was let down.

I did not talk about Ren because for me it was the biggest disappointment of the drama, it's normally the character that I like the most but in this remake, I didn't even feel sad for him. From the moment he knew she liked Thyme he never tried to win her over, even when he found her and had the opportunity to be alone with her he didn't do anything even if he had warned Thyme he would. This was not the case in previous versions, especially the Chinese, where he fought for her until he realised he could never get her. Congrats to Dew for giving Ren this mystique that made me fall in love with him and doing soo much with a character the writers gave soo little.

Lastly, I enjoyed the OST way more than I thought I would, it's nice that they gave the actors a space to show and promote their musical talent.

To end even with all its flaws I still feel this show is worth watching if you have time and specifically if you've never seen any other interpretation of this classic drama. Overall is a very enjoyable viewing experience, with some cringe moments that are brushed off by the comedy scenes that I loved and made me fall in love with characters I never thought I would, like Gorya's family and Gawao (flower store owner).

However to the question would rewatch this drama, my answer is NO.
(English is not my first language, so I apologize if something is wrong or hard to read)

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The most fancy version of F4

If you like to hear about the meanings behind the title name, read the bottom... :)

From several versions of F4 Boys over Flowers I have seen & read, including the original cartoon books, this one is a very well thought out cinematography wise. I have enjoyed a 'not too slow' story telling... but I guess they have to move it pretty fast if they are going to conclude 36-37 original animation books into 16 episodes. The last 2018 version has almost 40 episodes.

One good thing comes out of that speedy story telling is Gorya's torture was short and not so bad, IMO, compared to other versions. I hate that part so it is a plus for me.

LOVE how they make this version more Thai!!! They must be dying in those winter clothing. LoL! Look great though!

BTW, most fancy cars + clothing + accessories!!! Those get me excited to see their creativity.

Casting is great. Surprisingly, Ren comes out on top, IMO... Ren is the most difficult character because he is supposed to be amazingly smart, mysterious and romantic while he is severely introvert, carries mind autism and he is awkward as a company.
MJ comes out warmer than expected... I kind na like that. Good to see new faces making a big dent.

Come to Gorya, I get why they picked Tu as Gorya... Gorya has to be plain, not that pretty and 'blend to the background kind of girl'. I feel like she is yelling a lot when acts tough... it is hard to feel that she is into the character by doing so. I don't feel that she is the best casting for this role... sorry to say.

I love that this re-make goes back to the RED CARD and hazing rules as it is in the original books... Those makes the character situation more prominent and exciting. Meteor Gardens kills the plot by replacing the Red Card with the Joker (card challenging invitation)... I know... Why did they do that?!!!!! Ugh!

One point I don't like in this version is that... They are pushing Thyme & Kavin as a closer pair, I feel because of BrightWin.
Ren is Thyme's closest/BEST friend... it should be shown correctly... it helps explain the mental conflict Thyme & Ren will have later on when they pursue Gorya. Thyme always wants to talk to Ren first when he is happiest or saddest. All 4 are close, but Thyme and Ren are a closer pair... It helps explain why Thyme wouldn't cross Ren when Ren interjects helping Gorya getting out of the situation... or Thyme is so sad & mad & happy for Ren ALL at the same time when Ren leaves for France... or reserve that Thyme has when he feels that Ren is his heart rival... Thyme deeply wants to talk to Ren because Ren is his only true outlet. But he thinks that he can't do so when he feels threaten by Ren as love archenemy.

FYI, LOVE Lui (Ren) in 2018 Meteor Gardens!!!! That Lui is sooooo perfect.

I'm excited to see this version of F4, regardless. Su Su na!!!



About the title...

As many know that there are several interpretations over the title name, Boys over Flowers or "Hana Yori Dango" (the original Japanese version). Sort of meaning good guys are better than beautiful men.

Yet, the punch line is Dango has more than one meanings. While Dango means 'boys', it can mean sweet snack/bun/dumpling... somewhat similar to mochi. I read the cartoon books over 25 years ago... If I'm not mistaken, Tsukushi (original main female role) works in sweet shop (selling dungo of course) as her part-time job with her best friend. So that's the 2nd interpretation of the title.

Another is about 'Hana' (meaning flowers) at the Sakura fest... While many come to the festival for viewing the flowers that can't be kept, some come for food, drink and company (tangible/substance items)

In each of the re-make version, her part-time job changes to suit plot of each re-make version. 2018 Chinese version has them work in a tea shop. F4 Thailand centers around flower shop as Gorya's job. I think that's very cute... I am waiting to see the story when F4 are at the shop!!! (Sorry to spoil it!)

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I think it's the best version overall till now

Well, I've only seen the first two eps and the trailers and OST. It's a damn 10 on 10. I've watched BOF(2009) and MG(2018), they were a bit slow but in this series, the characters have been potrayed properly.

I personally liked the character of Ren and Kavin the most. The character of MJ is also nicely potrayed. So overall the casting is good.

Talking about rewatch value, in my case I'm talking about the story rewatch value. So if you've already seen any other version of F4, then also you'll not be bored seeing this version.

Even though the story is all same and we can predict the ending, but still we can watch it over and over again.

Hoping this actually remains 10 on 10 till the last episode.....


😁Thank You

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Gripping initially, but loses it towards the end

This was my favorite version of the F4 series. I've watched the same plot many times in Japanese, Korean and Chinese. Thailand's version of F4 does not disappoint initially. It follows Boys Over Flowers in that there IS a love triangle. What F4 Thailand does better is that
1) Our ML isn't that toxic
2) Our FL isn't that annoying
3) They introduce the FL's controlling mother early on and establishes her as a villain from the very beginning.
The first half of this show is truly adorable and you definitely root for the ML a lot more than in the other versions.

Where this show goes downhill is in the 2nd half where it is simply... too draggy. I ended up skipping majority of the show towards the end because we no longer see much Thyme x Gorya. Also, while Thyme/Gorya are my favourite couple from all the versions, the second couple isn't. Kim Beom & Kim So Eun were truly the GOATs.

The ending was... stupid. She somehow managed to convince Thyme's mother in NO TIME to be less hard-hearted and let Thyme do what he wants. Wow.

You'll definitely get butterflies initially (also Thyme/Ren are so cute) but it does go downhill later. Would've been an 8, but the later episodes were too unsatisfactory.

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Not your Boys Over Flower

If you are still giving it second thoughts just because you have watched previous version/versions , no need to do that just go ahead and watch this . Now to be honest , I am not a big fan of Hana Yori Dango because the storyline ughh- love wins all with a toxic shitty guy and a damsel in distress ...Nope not at all
But here is what is different for F4 Thailand , Thyme is not Toxic and Gorya is not a duffer . The most basic thing is that it is REALISTIC . It connects to the modern world . We get to see a close look at Thyme's world , if they are rich what happens then ? What are the problems they face ?Why can't Thyme and Gorya actually be together with ofcourse Gorya's self doubt . Although watching the same series you will not feel as if its old . It is a brand new world with brand new characters .
And ofcource the cast is top notch , you good literally see the hate sparkling in lead's eyes in the first few episodes .
Overall pretty great and worth a shot

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just want to share my thoughts

rewatched it after almost 3 years. it's middle of the night and I couldn't stop crying. I'm giving it all 10 stars coz why not?? everything about this show is just wholesome. the way every character was portrait, the way their life and the conflict b/w them was shown is just insane. character development of each character is something I'd really appreciate. if someone is hesitating whether to watch this show or not then I'll definitely give it a YES. a 1000% YESSS. just don't forget to arrange a pile of tissues before watching 😭💞
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Pour moi la meilleure version de HYD

J'en ai vu beaucoup : chinoises, japonaise, coréenne, adaptations,... Je craignais une version répétitive, juste actualisée de ce manga.
Mais j'ai été scotchée dès le 1er épisode !

PROS :
- Le rythme est rapide (tout tient en 16 épisodes).
- Le ton est assez sombre, parfois violent.
- Les personnages sont forts, actuels.
- Ce drama ne veut pas en faire trop. Il évite les failles de Meteor Garden 2018 avec des stories annexes ou des parties abracadabrantes (ile déserte, mariage surprise, etc.). L'ensemble reste relativement réaliste.
- Les OST sont excellentes.

FLAWS :
- Les costumes de Thyme, sans doute luxueux, sont de très mauvais goût. Quel designer/créateur l'a habillé pour ce drama ?
- Faire tenir une longue histoire en 16 épisodes, ne permet pas d'accorder beaucoup d'importance au background des personnages secondaires.

Une version actuelle, violente, dynamique de HYD, qui rafraichit agréablement l'histoire.

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At first i was curious about this series since im biggest fans of boys over flower, but after watching it until the last eps i didnt get chemistry between myself and this series, at the beginning i was like okay i will wait for the next eps maybe i will get the hype, but no until the last eps 😢. Sometimes editing its too much i dont know the editor want to this series little bit comedy or not but it doesn match, and sorry saying this the female lead actor shouting too much . And the sheep effect sound like? Hmmm. The main story is to bias and i dont know its still hype for bullying i thought the story will be different since today 2022

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"Bright and Tu Tontawan Shine Bright: A Stellar Duo in F4 Thailand"

"F4 Thailand" emerges as a modernized gem, skillfully revitalizing the classic storyline with compelling characters and dynamic storytelling. Thyme, the main male lead, undergoes a thoughtful transformation, shedding light on the pressures that mold him into a seemingly harsh character. The series maintains a brisk pace reminiscent of the Japanese version, skillfully utilizing social media technology to enhance the narrative, demonstrating a commendable update from its predecessors.

Gorya, portrayed by Tu Tontawan and Bright as the main leads, is the beacon of strength in this tale. Working at a flower shop, she enters a world of opulence after gaining admission to a prestigious school for the wealthy, dominated by the F4 clique. The dynamics unfold intriguingly as Gorya, the sole resistor to their bullying, captures the attention of Thyme, the group's leader. The romantic pursuit that follows is intensified by Gorya's initial indifference and her affection for Thyme's best friend, Ren.

The cast, featuring Tu Tontawan and Bright, delivers outstanding performances, breathing life into their characters. Thyme's unconventional approach, like placing Gorya's shoes in the dustbin, adds depth to their evolving relationship. The supporting cast, including Dew (Ren), Wen (Kavin), and Nani (MJ), enriches the narrative with nuanced portrayals.

The drama skillfully blends romance, humor, and societal commentary, making it a must-watch. Thyme's journey from a seemingly unapproachable character to a figure worthy of affection resonates well, and Gorya's internal conflicts add emotional depth. "F4 Thailand" stands out as an exhilarating Thai drama, weaving together stellar performances, impressive visuals, and a compelling storyline that captures the essence of the classic while injecting fresh perspectives. With its efficient storytelling and engaging characters, it successfully cements itself as a must-watch series in the realm of Thai dramas.








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