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Overrated

I was waiting for this drama to be released, however I didn't had high expectations , It just seemed fluffy and cute .When I started watching it , I really liked the first few episodes especially Kao's acting ; he did a good job honestly .That's all for the positive sides of the drama !
I find this show very overrated and here are the things I didn't enjoy :
* Gene's character : Very annoying , especially when he is trying to look cute . It wasn't convincing.
* The chemistry : Not the worst though , but at the same time not that good. It felt like Kao is the only one trying to stick with the role ; the way Up was looking/staring at him shows no feeling at all .
*The story : The idea itself is good : " Capturing the daily life of a BL writer and the hardships he had to endure in order to satisfy the audience that fantasize only about skinship scenes" . But unfortunately they failed to elaborate it and the plot turned out to be a simple sequence of romantic events between a writer and an actor .
To sum up , this is not my cup of tea .

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Interesante BL con algunas lagunas y algunos puntos positivos

Me he decidido a hacer un review aunque no se ha acabado la serie cuando he leido en twitter algunos comentarios después del capítulo de ayer. Algunos seguidores de la serie quedaron muy contentos con el último episodio y algunos ya le dan el título de mejor serie BL thailandesa. Buenooooo, eso es ser un poco audaz jjajaj ! Sintetizo en frases cortas lo que pienso de la serie:
Puntos a favor:
- El tema del consentimiento entre los dos chicos!!!! Muy importante y poco visto en las series BL Tailandesas. El respeto, el consentimiento tendría que ser más presente en los BL. La pareja principal es esencialmente una pareja sana, donde la comunicación funciona.
- La música muy bonita, me ha gustado mucho.
- Crítica a la industria BL: aunque des de un punto de vista humorístico y muy suave, la serie trata este tema. También el de los ships ficticios y el fenómeno fan en este tipo de series.
- Los besos de la pareja!!!!! Madre mía! Muy bien actuados, naturales y tiernos. Las escenas íntimas están hechas con clase. Con sensibilidad.
- La familia y su reacción a la relación homosexual: la serie intenta aproximarse con realismo y seriedad, a lo que suele pasar en la sociedad y las familias. No todo es automático, ni los padres entienden al momento la situación. Hay tensiones y se requiere mucho cariño para superar los prejuicios.
- El six pack de Nubsib es impresionante, para qué negarlo, jajajja
Puntos en contra:
- Los anuncios comerciales inseridos en la historia. Molestan mucho. No es tan solo comer un snak sino comentar sobre una marca (de cepillos de dientes) en medio de una conversación romántica argghhhhh, queda horribleeeeee!!!!
-Ciertas lagunas en la historia, ciertos giros, revelaciones, plot twist que quedan un poco forzados, que te quedas, Comorrrrr? De donde viene esto???
- La duración de algunas escenas, diálogos sin interés, silencios demasiado largos que ni la bonita música puede justificar, esto se ha venido repitiendo des del inicio de la serie.
- Personajes secundarios que de golpe desaparecen. Al principio de la serie parecían tener un papel en la historia pero después desaparecen de manera abrupta sin explicación.
- Pareja secundaria que en el capítulo 9 aún no se ha desarrollado ni explicado casi.
- Las actuaciones son meeeeh , más o menos correctas. A los actores les cuesta emocionarse, llorar, hechar la lágrima vaya y ha habido una escena dramática muuuuuy sobreactuada en algún capítulo anterior. Son buenos besando, eso siiiii, pero hace falta trabajar más los acting skills, para hacernos emocionar de verdad.

En resumen una serie que se deja ver porque ellos son muy monos pero no creo que pase a la historia como un gran BL, sino como un BL bonito más para pasar el rato. No es un bodrio como Oxygen, o A chance to Love ni da cringe como algunas series filipinas (LAKAN es horrible por ejemplo), pero no le llega a Sotus, ItSAY ni a Until we meet again ni a la suela del zapato, jajaj.
Puestos a comparar me gustan más 2 Moons 1/2, My engineer y todas las miniseries bl coreanas que ésta. Pero no la dejaré, ahora me la acabo.
ACABADA: Después de un parón viendo otros BL me he decidido a verla y estoy bastante satisfecha con el final. Un final muy bonito y romántico para nuestros chicos que han tenido una gran química durante toda la serie. Veremos el capítulo especial a ver qué tal, esperemos que no sea un despropósito pero he visto el trailer y no sé no sé.....

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it's a great show since ep 9

To be honest, I didn't really like this series at first. I honestly didn't like Nubsib's character, it felt like he was always forcing Gene to notice him and to do things with him. He was respectful, yes, but I felt like, after all, Gene didn't really have the choice to let him do the things he wanted. but since the moment they get together, Nubsib completely changed. he became sweet and even more respectful in my eyes. so, since ep 9, the story becomes really interesting and I loved it. I cried and laughed a lot. it's really a great series since the 9th episode. And I think it's a shame cause it has potential. The main couple was adorable not to mention de side straight couple who was, for me, the best!! These two had the best chemistry. But I have to say that the main couple had a good chemistry too.
anyway, to conclude, I have to say that I really didn't like the 8 first episodes, I forced myself to watch them. but it really becomes a great series since episode 9, when the main couple get together.
I hope you'll enjoy the beginning more than me and that you'll enjoy the end as much as me :)

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Interesting look into the BL world but writing and execution could be better.

“Lovely Writer” seems like a good way for me to peek into the world of Thai BL dramas and novels. I am not sure how much truth is in this drama, but if it’s exaggerated for the sake of entertainment, the truth doesn’t seem too far behind.

Is the drama’s intention to poke fun at the industry or to show us what it’s like? Either way, it’s an interesting topic and the main reason why I choose to watch it. I had a lot of fun watching the first few episodes when the drama was focusing on casting and filming some of the scenes. I actually would have loved to see more behind-the-scenes of the BL drama industry. Instead, I think we got more about the pressure of selling sex in novels.

This is a pretty good-looking cast, just like ‘Bad Engineers’, the BL drama in “Lovely Writer”. Kao N. who plays Nubsib is definitely good-looking. I also found Tum and Mhok quite attractive. Aoey might be a handsome guy but his character makes him very unattractive. I find Gene to be ok looking.

But when it comes to acting, it’s just so-so and inconsistent. It’s not the worst I’ve seen in a BL drama, but definitely not the best. The cast is still quite young and inexperienced, and most of them only had a few dramas under their belt. I think out of the group, Up might be the most consistent and he plays the introverted and awkward Gene pretty well.. Kao (Nubsib) had a rocky start but got better towards the latter half of the drama.

I also find the pacing of the drama very slow. There are some episodes I have to watch at 1.25x speed because it takes forever for the cast to spit out a sentence or it spends too much time using slow-motion to have the characters look around or contemplate. I also don’t think we need to watch Aoey cry for 5-10 minutes on multiple occasions, which led to my dislike of the character even more. I was waiting for the romance to develop faster, so that I can see more of their relationship challenges navigating the entertainment industry as a couple. Unfortunately, that didn’t happen until towards the end of the drama.

Overall, I do enjoy the romance between Gene and Sib and their backstory (though a little unrealistic). I think their contrasting personalities make for a fun watch. They really didn’t do much and are very domesticated. I think that’s also part of their charm and I do like their scenes together at home. They have great chemistry and have very believable and nice kisses (not forced, not overly R-rated, but just right for the moment). The concept of the reconciliation is nice, but I don’t think it’s executed well and is too short. On the other hand, I dislike the romance between the two managers. I think they are fillers and don’t add anything to the drama at all. If you cut out their romance, nothing will be affected.

Overall, I had a great time watching this due to the subject matter. I am not sure how this drama was received in Thailand during its airing. I wish BL fans can separate real life actors vs characters in a drama. These aggressive fans shipping is really toxic.


Other Random Observations:
1. My first Thai drama seeing two meals of Korean food (BBQ and home-cooked tteokbokki) and a Japanese tea ceremony.
2. Everyone is so rich. Such nice apartments and big houses.
3. I can never get used to the aggressive product placements in Thai BL dramas - drinks, facial masks, cosmetics, breath freshener, dental hygiene products, sunscreen, etc.
4. I am not liking the weird fairytale endings. They might be fun, but they are fillers to me.


Completed: 11/6/2022

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A segunda gostei mais...

Não sei porquê , mas na segunda vez gostei mais...

A historia ganha logo pontos porque não se passa na faculdade... Isto é, a história "real" .
Mas sim, o que pode se passar por trás das camaras de um BL.
É uma história leve, para passar um boa tarde.
Eu sei se a história prendeu-me o meu interesse quando não tenho aquela coceira de clicar no rato para avançar mais rápido.
Dos nossos actores principais conhecia Nine Nopparat de outro papel que nada tem haver com o Nubsib (que por sinal é o meu Bl).
Já o Up Poompat foi uma agradável novidade para mim.
Por sinal todo elenco foi já que me lembre só conhecia mesmo o Nine.
A musica principal do casal, para o bem ou para o mal, neste momento não me sai da cabeça.
Voltarei a rever? Provavelmente.


PS. Gostaria que houvesse algum tipo de continuação com a história de Aey (Bruce Sirikorn Kananuruk) mesmo que ele tenha sido considerado o "vilão de serviço" acho que merecia um final feliz...

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One of the biggest surprises of the year

I was honestly not expecting much from Lovely Wrjter, specially because the first couple of episodes didn’t wow me. But things got way better quickly.
Right from episode 1 it’s clear that Sib is being shady and has ulterior motives to get close to Gene. Little be littler started to see layers and piece together that Sib doesn’t seem to be trying to do harm do Gene. At first I thought he was a con artist, I was sure he wasn’t even enrolled in the university, that just wanted to seduce the lonely and innocent Gene.

I did not see the twist coming. I’d never have guessed that they knew each other from childhood. It’s a bit of a stretch that a 10 year old would prefer to play hide and seek or with stuffed animals with a 6 year old, rather than playing with the other boys around his age. But, it serves to show that they have a connection since then.

I like how their relationship is developed within the 12 episodes. Even though they kissed pretty early, I like how things didn’t get rushed even after they start to date. I like how Sib has patience with Gene because he knows it’s all new to him. Yes, somethings Sib is a bit too obsessed with Gene, like telling him not to talk to stranger, when the “stranger” was one of the main characters on their series within the series.

I liked the supporting characters too. I’m glad that the show didn’t try to do a redemption act for Aye. He really gets a sad ending, all alone. I also like how the series uses him to criticize the obsessive nature of the shipping surrounding BLs. I wish we got to see Hin being a best seller and getting more respect from Bua in the end. He deserves that by being an amazing friend to Gene, jeopardizing his career. I also love how both older brothers are 100% supportive of Gene and Sib. If Hin gets the Best Friend award, Jab and Nueng share the Best Brother award.

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VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.....did not see this coming from miles !

After months of escaping all the possible spoilers, I finally finished Lovely Writer. And you know what.....not bad at all!! This was a pretty decent....dare I say a quality show. I started watching this show without any expectations or read reviews or gauged the public reaction (which I usually do because time is of essence)……I simply dived into it. The end result was me decently satisfied with this new Thai BL drama. Without anymore ranting let me start with what I appreciated about the show.


1) OUT OF THE BOX SETUP: The real star of this show has to be the story. To be honest, there is no complicated plot or a genuine plot to begin with. However, the setup is unique from BL standpoint. As ironical as it may seem, the fact that a BL series is made on the world behind the production of a BL series definitely captured the audience’s attention. Apart from addressing our curiosity to know what goes in the making (even though most of the developments were predictable) of a “hit bl show”, the inter cast dynamics, PR gimmicks, fan pleasing, product placements, real story v/s eye grabbing scenes narrative, capitalizing gender/sexual identities etc was partially if not completely touched upon. Due to the light tone of the show, the makers did not dig too deep vis-à-vis these issues. But the fact that they are acknowledging, rather almost parodying (to some extent) these realities was refreshing to watch. For this fact alone, I would want to congratulate the author of the book and the makers who decided to tell this story. There is no moral of the story in the end with regard to these industry practices nor do they start a conversation about reforming this industry. Nevertheless, their decision to give a peak into this world is a start for future BL stories to be more progressive, inclusive and reformed.

2) UPSCALE PRODUCTION: Now we all know that Thai BLs get good financial backing. Because they are widely watched in Thailand and around the world, big channel executives and companies do not shy from spending extra on them and earn millions in profit. So of course, Lovely Writer had scenic scenes, houses we all wished we lived in and clothes we all wished to have in our wardrobe. But according to me, the budget was particularly well spent on the cinematography. I seldom come across Thai BLs with this level of refined camerawork. So many scenes were angled beautifully with the perfect lighting. These creative decisions added more layers to the story and the characters.

3) THE MAIN COUPLE: This couple took time to grown on me, but boy was I glad. The first few episodes did not give any butterflies in my stomach, neither was I swooning. It was only from the mid episodes when the story started revealing itself, did I see their charm. Gene and Nubsib aren’t like Tharn-Type level steamy or passionate; they aren’t like Korn-Knock type long time best friends who radiate same energy and; they aren’t like Konpob-Arthit like senior-junior who slowly initiate their relationship. They are a mix of all these iconic Thai BL couples and much more. On the surface, they are extremely opposite to each other but in essence they were very similar. Gene is calm, collected yet nervous and at times under confident. Nubsib is confident, charismatic yet lonely and detached from the world. Together they were the perfect harmonious couple one could wish for. Gene brought out the best in Nubsib, whereas Nubsib gave Gene the environment where he felt accepted. This show is about them and seeing their journey. Just like colorful shards of glasses forming beautiful patterns in a kaleidoscope, their ups-downs, joyous interactions and individual personality traits molded the best moments of the show. Up Poompat portrayed the character of Gene very well. I was surprised to see his acting, especially in the scenes where he had to cry or be an emotional mess. I think the casting director did a great job, as he has tons of potential. Kao as Nubsib looked almost destined to play this character. Visually, he fit the character like a glove. Though I feel he needs to improve his acting skills, but all in all he did put great efforts in his first role as the main lead.

Areas where the show could’ve improved:

1) COMICAL MUSIC: I did not like the music. I felt it was too cheesy and almost cartoony, especially when a back track was used when the leads were about to kiss or they had a sweet moment. Listening to someone singing “I wanna kiss” in the background when the leads are about to do that killed the moment for me…so many times. Eventually I had no choice but to accept this and get over it.

2) BELOW AVERAGE SECONDARY CHARACTERS: This has been an issue with Thai BLs for a long time but because the cast was more expansive in this one, some characters managed to irk me. I found Aey as a character very frustrating. I understand that his job was to bring more salt to an otherwise sweet story, but he seemed like a half cooked character. The character sketch was dodgy and his portrayal by Bruce was unfortunately not up to the mark (according to me). He needs more training and workshop coaching, especially for scenes that demand him to cry or show vulnerability. Characters like Tum and Tiffy were sometimes sweet and sometimes boring. The actors were okay, but Ken who portrayed Tum also needs more acting workshops. I personally feel the amount of work and dedication the makers put in improving the acting of leads, they do not do that for the other cast members. Unfortunately, acting is one job where you can’t hide. One might not have the taste or knowledge of identifying great acting but public can definitely recognize bad acting.


Lovely Writer brings an obvious yet not so obvious story onscreen. It’s an interesting blend between reality of the industry and a fictional mushy tale. For BL lovers this is a must watch. This show is all about enjoying the story, witnessing some truths yet indulging in the addicting world of BL. Pleasantly surprised !

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Profoundly Moving Sometimes while Mundane Overall

This was a hard series for me to get through. Let me just say upfront that it is one of the best acted Thai BL series to come along in a long time. And they actually tackled some interesting real-life situations not in the usual manner but with some realistic approaches. Yet, the story all seemed so ordinary to me and I just did not buy the relationship between the two leading actors. In order for me to accept it, it has to look real and feel real but I just did not see that. However, who really 'stole' this series are the incredible supporting roles. These actors and actresses were unbelievably good and did a way more convincing job than than the main characters. I cannot say enough about how good these people were. Please do not misunderstand; no one did a bad job in acting. I just did not buy the relationship. If it were not for the supporting characters, this series would have been rather dull. I loved them a lot and they carried this series. There is also such a glaring flaw in logic in this story that is just not handled well at all. It will hit you in the face when you realize what it is. It simply made no sense. If you want to read my full review of this series (where I name specific individuals and how they 'stole' this series, go to BLBliss.com.

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Superficial to its core and relying on throwing uninformed seemingly cool shade on BL industry

This series is such a mess. It's superficial to its core and relying on throwing uninformed seemingly cool shade on BL industry under the guise of being woke, catering to a particular audience that is suffering under the illusion that they have some sort of moral high ground and love to bash BL writers while having absolutely no problem consuming their stories and toxicly shipping actors in real life, not giving a damn how negatively it affects their private lives.

The writing of the series fails at the most important thing - giving screentime to the development of its characters. It's normal that the first episodes sometimes drawn themselves in way too much exposition but they usually establish certain emotional depth and motivation to one of its leading characters at the very least, but episode 1 LW didn't show any of that. Its main characters are flat and one-dimensional caricatures of real people.

The editing is a mess, the acting is mediocre at best, the music and sound effects are awful. The only decent thing about the show is the camera and I would say the directing but considering that in these independent productions its the writer and director who are in charge of editing as well I have to say even the director is a failure.

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It’s finally over

Empty discussions, a lot of ideas who are lost in the middle, bad execution and stupid characters. Unnecessary dramas, everything would be resolved if the dialogue were two-way, one speaks and the other talks over the top without thinking about what the other have just said.
Just because the there are a lot of kisses in the series doesn't save the lack of chemistry between the Nunsib and Gene. The actor’s performances are not so bad, but Aoey have the same “I need to poop” face in every scene , get a grip, get a life and get over it.
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Eu adorei o episódio que o gene fala que o pai dele namorava meninos quando era mais novo

Lovely Writer chegou dando um tapa na cara dos dois lados, e mostrando que a indústria tem os dois lados o lado bom e o lado obscuro, a gente sabe muito bem que existe o lado ruim a gente apenas finge que ele não existe apenas pra ver aquilo que agrada nossos olhos, mostrou também que a empresa pode ser abusiva em questão de relacionamento deles durante a promoção da série e tals e que também se intromete na vida pessoal de seus atores, não só a empresa mais quem assiste também pois ainda existe pessoas que não conseguem separar a vida profissional da vida pessoal, lovely writer quebrando a quinta parede e escancarando ao mundo como as coisas podem ocorrer atrás das cameras durante uma produção..

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Primera serie tailandesa que seguí en emisión y estoy muy contenta de haberla elegido para ello. Aunque al inicio tenía mis dudas –todavía no estoy tan acostumbrada al tono de los bls de este país–, Lovely Writer terminó siendo una grata sorpresa.

De principio a fin, me parece una historia consciente de sí misma; juega entre ficciones y realidades, con algunas críticas hacía una industria (y los fans de ésta), pero dejando en claro que, en sí, es parte de la misma.

Y eso sin dejar de lado la creación de personajes interesantes. De principales a secundarios, nos cuentan un poco del contexto de cada uno para que podamos entenderlos y para dejar un mensaje en particular.

Sobre los protagonistas, al principio tenía cierta aversión hacia Nubsib porque todo en él me gritaba que usaba una sonrisa despampanante y una voz suave con dobles intenciones. Sin embargo, con sus momentos de honestidad empezó a ganarme y eso se reafirmó al saber su historia.

Desde el episodio uno, Gene se convirtió en mi favorito, y disfruté verlo crecer a lo largo de la historia. Pasó de sentirse incómodo respecto a su orientación sexual a enfrentar a otros para que lo respetaran. Además, fue una guía para otros personajes y siempre fue amable.

Gene y Nubsib como pareja me parecieron preciosos. Van ganando confianza el uno en el otro, empiezan a ser honestos y hablar de sus miedos en lugar de ocultarlos; llegan al punto de sentirse cómodos con mostrar su cariño ante sí mismos y ante el resto del mundo.

Por supuesto, tienen su dosis de sufrimiento. No sólo deben sobrepasar sus propias inseguridades, también el hecho de tener una relación siendo figuras públicas, y con personas a su alrededor claramente en desacuerdo con que sean pareja.

El mayor "pero" que le pongo a Lovely Writer es el cierre que le dieron a algunos de los personajes secundarios, no me sentí satisfecha con ellos. Considero que sus finales no fueron equiparables a sus acciones en la trama (para bien o para mal).

La historia de Gene y Nubsib la atesoraré en el top de mis favoritas en el mundo de los bls.

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