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yeah....
nevertheless, i actually liked it.when this drama was airing i heard so many bad opinions, about the project in general and the characters/relationship. i watched the first episodes and then dropped it because i wanted to prioritize others dramas that i liked more, but than this year i thought "why not" and i enjoyed it, the acting its really good with all the actors and actress, the cast is good and the couples matched perfectly, they all had the chemistry needed. but there some things that i didn't liked, obsviously.of course all the couples had their problems, ji wan was incredibly dependant emotionally on sol, so much that it was annoying. it's ok to like someone like she liked sol, but she didn't want sol to live like a normal person, having other friends besides her, going in places without her like GURL what the hell, your friend/lover have a LIVE, she wanted sol to live for her and in any point the drama talked about this.well, so going further to the other couple, bit na and the bald guy, i hate her chatacter, i hated her personality, she was arrogant, greedy and didn't like gyung hun for what he was, she just wanted to go back with him because she saw she was losing him for good and i bet, people like her (and like jae eon) they don't change, its really hard for a person like them change so fast like they tried to show on this drama. and going to the our main couple, i liked their chemistry and i liked both of them, but not together and not as a couple. i couldn't be mad a na bi for once because i'm a borderline person, so i can't judge her for her attitudes, i did the same as her so many times, with so many boys, i put myself in so many ridiculous relationships because of my problem. i really did envolve myself with guys like jae eon, some worse than him so i saw myself on her so many times. it was really annoying seeing how he manipulates her so she would feel wrong to treat him the way he needs to be treated at (like the time she "broke up" w/ him) and the times the story makes us feel pity for him when he starts to "really" like her and notice that HE was wrong all the time, but like i said, people like him, guys or girls like him doesn't change quickly like they tried to show on the story. or not. because until the end she says "i'll regret being with you, but i'll still do", she knew that, she was aware of that but the lack of self love it was her ending, when someone with this lack of love like she has and i do meet someones that doesn't want to envolve themselves in a relationship and just want to hang out with everyone, this happens. jae eon was romanticized by her the whole time, she knew but couldn't get out of their relationship because she was traumatized by her last relationship, a toxic one, and she put herself in another toxic guy, because when u get out of one, its so easy to put yourself in another closed to the last, so yeah, i couldn't blame her.and what i liked the most about this k-drama was not just the aesthetic pleasantly sets, places and the art, but how realistic the drama is, even hating some characters sometimes, the relationships, the friendships and everything was so real, i saw their groupd of friends, their personalities, the bad things they do and i can see clearly my coleagues, my friends. thats the world, the yound adult world. so yeah, i liked the drama for that and i don't recommend to everyone. and besides everything i think its so easy to romanticize jae eon chatacter because of song kang, its a good looking guy (that hardly you'll meet in your real life hahah but yeah...). so 7/10 because the production is good, the cinematography is so good, the art, the aesthetic and everything about it was cool to watch :) and the OST is amazing, definitely going to listen day by day.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
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a story that leads nowhere
the drama's story is not the best, but it could be a lot better if the script was better. the main couple (nabi and jae-eon) are literally the most boring characters, even so the side characters have more charm than them. nabi, initially, looks sane and all, but she's just SO confusing. to the point she looks kind of dumb, really dumb. she says to herself that she will not fall into jae-eon's tricks and later she changes her mind when he kisses her. there is no reason to why she likes him, he literally does something nice for her sometimes and that's it. his character is really annoying and touched her all the time, even when they just met, and it was a bit hard to watch them together because she looked too shy and uncomfortable. she knows that he's not committing to any closed relationship and it's sad about it, she knows he can't make her happy and still decides to stay with him at the end. he did a lot of bad decisions throughout the drama and said some manipulative things as well. at some point the two were unbearable to watch, they had no chemistry besides their physical attraction to each other. she just likes him because she finds him attractive, even though he's kind of a jerk and has no personality (except his quirky character trait of liking butterflies). she rarely looked really happy when she was with him, always with a distressed expression worrying if he's worth it. i don't understand the point in dating someone if you'll be worrying if they're a good person or not all the time and doubting them.the good part of the show is the side characters. they have interesting and dynamic personalities that go well together and creates great chemistry. bit-na is very outgoing and social, she knows everyone. sometimes she was annoying but it's normal to have some defects. her actress made a good job incorporating the character. her boyfriend was ok too and they looked cute together (mainly towards the end). now, sol and jiwan; they're the best couple in the show, in my opinion. they're really cute and they seem really close (the actresses had so much chemistry and it didn't looked forced at all). their relationship is simple and adorable, and i liked pretty much every dialogue they had. sol was cute in every scene, her character is chill and she looked really natural all the time; she was kind of oblivious but it was cute. jiwan could be annoying sometimes but it's just the way she is, and she's really funny; sol likes her this way. their way of showing affection had me crying. sol is very subtle and kind, but she was always thinking about jiwan and doing something nice for her, even if it seemed small (getting her a plush of the character she likes, getting her candy, wrapping her with the blanket on a restaurant). she was just naturally attentive towards her. jiwan was always leaning towards her, too; but she showed it hugging sol and always taking care of her (even if it didn't look like it), she was easily jealous too but it was because she didn't know how to deal with her feelings for sol at first and was confused about it.
the other couples are fine too, the couple with the ones who both had glasses were so funny and really seemed like they were married. they had more chemistry and personality than the main leads.
to sumn-up, this drama was very hard to watch when the main characters were together on screen. it just got boring and they never had a great dialogue whatsoever. but when the side characters were on screen, it was very light-hearted and nice. do-hyeok and the other guy who also liked nabi were cute and they should've ended up with her, she was not as boring as she was with jae-eon.
also, towards the end, when jae-eon free his butterflies, i thought it would be a metaphor for him leaving nabi alone and acknowledging that he's not the best partner for her. but it was not and it was really just meaningless. the message of the drama is "even if someone is not making any good for you and actually making your life worse, if the person is attractive, it's ok" and nabi's life went downhill when she got to know him.
— story: 3/10; bad storyline that leads nowhere, really repetitive.
— acting: 7/10; it's good but didn't stood out that much.
— music: 3/10; really plain.
— rewatch value: 3/10; thanks to soljiwan moments.
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It’s not as bad as most reviews are making it seem!
This show is getting a lot of hate and bad reviews here, and I can see why. But I liked it. And I liked Jae Eon. Yes his character started out as womanizing and toxic, and yes he communication issues (like most drama couple leads lol). But he does change, noticeably, and obviously loves Nabi. I honestly disliked Nabi more. She also doesn’t communicate with Jae Eon, seems oblivious to his changes, and seems like she just wants a boyfriend no matter who. Everyone can say that Jae Eon is toxic for her but she’s just as toxic for him to me. She shows no faith in him, doesn’t directly ask him his feelings or what’s going on, and believes others without hearing from him.My biggest complaint with this series is the characters were really under developed, especially Jae Eon. There’s obviously a back story to him, we get a couple hints but nothing is ever explained. They could have made this drama much better and made the ending much better by telling us the whole story of these main characters. While most might say it’s a happy ending the way they set it up just makes you so incredulous at Nabi that at least in my case I couldn’t understand her decision to date Jae Eon (even though I wanted them to end up together). The side characters in this were amazing and definitely elevated the series for me. Bit Na was a bit annoying though and I wish the LGBTQ couple got more storyline.
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Nevertheless is definitely one of the most-talked about K-drama here in Malaysia during its broadcast. First reason, Song Kang and Han So Hee are the main leads. Let's admit it. Their visuals are no joke. Second reason, well, the 19+ scenes. When it was announced that Song Kang and Han So Hee will be having a show together, I was really rooting for it even though I don't know the story yet. I just want to see their chemistry together. I didn't even read the synopsis of the drama. So, I literally have no idea what the story is all about, which makes the drama more interesting to me.Slow-paced series
A lot of my friends know that I am not really into slow-paced dramas. Because I easily get bored with those kind of dramas. But let this be an exception. The slow-paced storytelling made me connected with the characters more. I was able to feel the heaviness they felt.I really love it when there is an ample time for this kind of stare. Those voice-overs during these scenes makes me more immersed with the situation. And this one of the reasons why Nevertheless is a realistic one for me.
A realistic story
Although I really wanted to slap Nabi for her poor decisions in life, I can't totally blame her. She came from an abusive relationship. She was healing. She was lost. It's really easy for us to say who to choose and who will be better because we're not in her situation. We don't know what's really happening on her mind. Or what her heart really wants. Same goes with Jae Eon. I believe that he also don't know what he wants. He always say that he don't want to be in a relationship. But I think, deep inside him, he wanted to be loved. He's just afraid? I don't know. But that's what I feel for his character. It's just that, the way he reacts is on a toxic way.
Both characters are lost. And when we're looking for answer on another person, we'll end up hurting them or hurting ourselves. But that's the reality of life. We always get hurt with our decisions. Because even if we know it's going to affect us negatively, we'll still push through.
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I remember the quote, "I'd rather have 'oh well's than 'what if's". This is a great example of that. Nabi knew that Park Jae Eon will eventually hurt her. But she decided to continue liking Jae Eon and be in a relationship with him. At least, they tried making it work.
Another second lead syndrome
The feelings I felt while watching Nevertheless was the same feeling I got when I watched "A Love So Beautiful". My heart goes for the second lead, the good guy that the main lead didn't choose. Aside from the fact that I liked Chae Jong Hyeop, (come on! Look at his pretty smiles) I really liked his character here in Nevertheless. Yang Do Hyuk knows what he really wants in the first place. He likes Nabi. He wants Nabi to be happy. He is honest with what he feels. And because he loves Nabi more, he decided to let her go at the end. I really feel bad for him for choosing someone who doesn't love him.
During the first few episodes, I really wanted to ship him with Nabi. But while the story progresses, I stopped shipping him because I believed he deserves someone better. Although his love life wasn't a success, his career is. We don't know what happened next to him but I just hope that he will also find his happiness.
The scene stealers
Aside from the main leads' story, we are also rooting for these characters. They have their own story to tell. They also have their own struggles. Nevertheless showed us that there are different kind of love stories, different kind of struggles. These pairs made Nevertheless more interesting.
Final Thoughts
For me, Nevertheless is actually a good drama. But it may not be everyone's cup of tea. It really depends on you if you would love the flow of the story. For me, the drama has ended well and I don't see the need for another season. To be honest, I wanted Nabi to not end with anyone. But the ending somehow was justified because at least she was able to voice out what she really wants. And that is to be with Jae Eon even if Jae Eon might hurt her in the future. She took the risk.With this drama, I learned to understand people more, especially with their life choices. We're all lost and we're still figuring things out. But I hope we can all be strong to face those struggles may it be in love or in life, generally.
This series is available on Netflix.
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Nabi
I really liked this one, but it lacked a few things (like the ending, which wasn't the best), but other than that, the development of the main characters was good, the secondary ones were really good, the couples that didn't have as much focus as the main one still had a lot of things talking about them, that said 8.5/10, I don't give a higher score because of the ending that could be better.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
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contém spoilers.
Primeiro de tudo, o dorama entrega MUITO no cast principalmente por ter a Sohee no elenco. Porém convenhamos que nesse dorama ela nao serviu, primeiro que o personagem do Song Kang nesse dorama eh um merd$ e a Nabi (Sohee) nao consegue ver isso, claro que o final do dorama ja era esperado. Porém fiquei decepcionado que a Nabi e o carinha da batata não tiveram sequer UMA cena bonitinha juntos, o dorama todo eh so a Nabi chorando por causa do Song Kang e a Bit na falando pra bixinha que ele nao prestava.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
Todo país tem seu After
Horrível, isso descreve a série. Meus olhos doeram assistindo, mas eu persisti. Os protagonistas são patéticos e o final deles é uma bosta. Nem o elenco salvou o show. Aguentei até o final por um motivo: Sol e Jiwan. Elas apareciam por 30 segundos em cada episódio, mas com elas eu recuperava os anos que perdia quando assistia a essa cópia mal feita de Chernobyl, o casal principal. A série é uma bomba, mas os personagens secundários são legais, essas 2 estrelas são por eles. Não recomendaria isso nem ao meu pior inimigo.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
?Por si no saben de qué se trata, acá les cuento: Yoo Na-Bi es una estudiante de arte que rompió con su novio luego de verlo siendo infiel. Para ahogar sus penas, entra sola a un bar, dónde termina conociendo a Park Jae Uhn, un chico obsesionado con las mariposas. Para sorpresa de ella, esa no será la única vez que lo vea.
?¿Cómo empiezo esto? Nevertheless empezó prometiendo mucho y terminó con sabor a poco. Los pongo en contexto: este kdrama está clasificado como +15 y prometía salirse un poco de la norma. Ojo, al principio lo hace, pero esto se pierde a medida que pasan los capítulos.
?Entre más pasan los días y más pienso, más cosas que no me gustan encuentro. Al principio la relación de los protagonistas era interesante y parecía salirse del típico romance cliché, pero, plot twist, al final no. A medida que avanza la historia todo se vuelve más y más igual a todo lo que ya vimos.
❌Hablando de los protagonistas, al principio me caían muy bien, parecía que iban a tener un desarrollo tremendo, pero siento que al final quedaron re planos, en especial Park Jae Uhn. Intentan de una manera muy vaga justificar por qué él es como es, pero en realidad no tiene mucho sentido.
✅Aunque sí hay algunas cosas que me gustaron mucho de este drama. Primero, la química que manejan Song Kang y Han So Hee está a otro nivel, les creí todo lo relacionado a las ganas que tenían de estamparse contra la pared jajaja. Segundo, el second lead tiene una personalidad muy bonita y se mantiene hasta el final, cosa que no siempre pasa en este tipo de series. Tercero, hay dos parejas secundarias que me encantaron, siento que a pesar de tener muchísimo menos tiempo en pantalla, el desarrollo de ambas está muy bien hecho y se siente súper genuino.
?Por último, a pesar de todo lo que no me gustó, este drama es súper adictivo y hace que necesites saber cómo va a seguir todo, por lo menos en la primera mitad de la serie.
Véanla únicamente si ya se vieron todos los dramas de romance y quieren ver a Song Kang.
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CERCA DE SER UN DRAMA DIFERENTE PERO CAE EN LOS MALOS CLICHÉS
Es un drama que es apenas pasable, no es malo, tampoco lo odio pero le falta mucho para considerarlo bueno, o recomendarlo o querer repetirlo. Ya conocía el tipo de historia, género y ''romance'' que maneja porque ya había leído el webtoon, estaba abierta a ver cambios en la historia pero no esperaba que estos cambios cambiaran todo el sentido principal de la trama.En un inicio me gustó, más que nada me tenía intrigada cómo desarrollarían una historia '''romántica'' con un protagonista como Jae Eon, y al comienzo parecía que el drama iba por ver buen camino porque conocíamos los pensamientos y conflictos internos que tenía Nabi, ella sabía que estaba cometiendo un error al aceptar a Jae Eon a pesar de que no estaba de acuerdo con su comportamiento, y ella hasta nos hizo creer que entendió todo pero no fue así. Solo la veíamos arrepentirse una y otra vez y aún así terminó volviendo con él confiando ciegamente en sus palabras y no en sus acciones. Lo siento, pero las personas que creen que esto es correcto y es representación de un buen romance solo me hacen creer que están atrapados en un relación tóxica como la de ellos.
No me gustó nada como el drama se convirtió en un triángulo amoroso en el que tenemos a Jae Eon y Do Hyeok peleando por Nabi, tampoco cómo se manejó el personaje de Jae Eon al final, me pareció muy incoherente y forzado. Los capítulos finales fueron muy difíciles de ver para mí.
A pesar de lo malo hay cosas que sí me gustaron: El OST hermoso con canciones que amé, el cast perfecto de Han So Hee y Song Kang como las versiones idénticas de Nabi y Jae Eon del webtoon, su química increíble, el ambiente de una escuela de arte, las historias de las parejas secundarias de Bit Na y Sol y Jiwan y la diversidad de personajes.
OPINIÓN COMO ADAPTACIÓN DEL WEBTOON:
Cómo adaptación es hasta cierto punto buena. No odio al drama. El cast de Nabi y Jae Eon es PERFECTO. La incorporación de personajes nuevos (SolJiWan) funciona muy bien y es verdad que la actitud y carácter de Jae Eon está mucho más suavizado en el drama peeeeero aún así debió haber mantenido el final del drama. Realmente no me gustó cómo manejaron al personaje de Do Hyeok, terminaron convirtiendo al drama en un triángulo amoroso improvisado cuando se supone que Jae Eon y Do Hyeok ni siquiera llegaron a conocerse. Tampoco entendí la necesidad de incluir al personaje de Seol Ah si no siguieron la historia original (que es un punto clave en el webtoon)
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Can you handle story with indecisive main leads always breaking up and getting together?
firstly Han So Hee is one of mine fav actresses. This drama cant be compared to Soundtrack#1, but still its not as bad as ratings goes. Whole drama got quite nice cinematography its quite good to look at. At other hand it got alot slow scenes.Whole drama is about college life at art school and relationships of students. For korean drama its surprise that they pushed into it mature content, but at least its some innovation.
Story of main pair is sadly, about guy which cant give girl he likes feeling of security, cause his own emotional immaturity. It makes whole story quite toxic and relationship going in circle get together X breakup. Still I got no problem with watching it.
plot - FL is art student in college and just break-up with her ex cause he cheated her. She soon got together with young man[ML] in bar, which as she gets to know latter happens to be student from same college.
genre - romance, college, art
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Dava 10 estrelas se o endgame de jaeon e nabi fosse no 4 ep e o resto do dorama seria só os coadjuvantes ate pq se nao fosse por eles ngm terminava esse...
A dinâmica do casal é interessante no começo mas se torna extremamente entediante ao longo do drama, no geral nao é ruim mas juro daria 10000 estrelas se os protagonistas fossem os personagens coadjuvantes
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It’s realistically true, Nevertheless
Love has always been a complex topic which draws a great amount of interest in every audio visual art form. It is also the case with Nevertheless. The story revolves around multiple youthful, free-spirited, reckless love from diverse characters in a homogeneous college environment. The kdrama itself came in a short, seemingly compact 10 episodes which aired weekly (a short 6 episodes and held a difference from the usual 2 episodes per week usual Kdrama formats). Although with the unique format, the love adventure is not as solid as they making it out to be.Disclaimer: Nevertheless is based on a webtoon from the same name, however I never read nor had any interest on the said e-comics. This review is based on my personal preferences.
Nevertheless tells the story of multiple Sculpture major students — emphasis on love stories — but it mostly focuses on a senior student, Yoo Nabi, and her junior yet-the-same-age-and-a-player, Park Jae-eon. Other than our main couple and the dynamics of Nabi’s friends, we also learn about an additional main character Yang Dohyeok which happens to be Nabi’s long-lost childhood friend (whom had a crush on her).
The premise of Nevertheless offers simplicity. Within all the relationships, every one of them has their own unique up and downs. Firstly though, let’s focus on Yoo Nabi and Park Jae-eon. The main couple of the story speaks to the audience as they were relatable to recent dating trends. Either you hate commitment, disbelieve in fate and coincidences, vent some sort of lust, or unconfidently stand on your own two feet of principles, they offer a realistic approach to all of those. While being realistically enchanting, the plot execution of Nevertheless fell flat especially towards the end. The early stages of Nabi and Jae-eon’s relationship felt nerve-wrecking. However, other than feeling anxiously excited for each other’s next moves, it comes off as jitty — thanks to Jae-eon’s over-the-top red flags in almost every love-related scenes. We also got a too-kind hopeless romantic second-lead — that the female lead seemed to be more comfortable with yet didn’t end up with. Out of many possible outcomes, if anything, Nabi could’ve been a miss independent in order to obtain her dreams and a stable life. Yet, she ends up with Jae-eon declaring her willingness to regret the relationship if necessary. Nabi’s plot is indeed, dryer than I thought it would be, except for that one time her piece being broken.
Fortunately though, Nevertheless showed redeeming qualities when it comes to the side couples. Although I would point out firstly how it felt a little too exaggerated that every single pairing is on a timid and homogeneous environment, a Sculpture Major in a university. Starting off with Oh Bitna (the Gretchen Wieners of the university) and Nam Gyuhyun (a decent guy, though he seems to do mansplaining to Bitna quite often) whom had the best friends turned lover trope. Being a side plot, their arcs didn’t do much but the simplicity revolving around them was enjoyable. A major downside when they edited the guy out of the frame on episode 8 and 9 due to his personal life scandal. Being best friends since childhood, the cute yet possessive Seo Jiwan plus settled and though Yoon Sol is another story. In the act of South Korea becoming slightly more progressive, the addition of this LGBTQ+ couple actually felt enticing as the characters didn’t overdo neither half-assing their actions. Last but not the least are the double decent seniors, Ahn Kyungjoon and Minyoung. I never really understood their presence in the university, lack of details there, yet this couple felt effortless and natural. Sadly, the duo didn’t really connect with the main plot and felt more like a filler. I might missed some couples but those four are the necessary ones. Aside from the characters mentioned earlier, the extended characters that were not affiliated with the main couples are lively — especially the bubbly assistant and Seo Jiwan and Yoon Sol’s witty male friend.
Other than the love stories, I found Nevertheless to be lacking in plot with the corresponding settings that it had. The drama clearly had potential with exploring the life of university, specifically art department, multiple students which basically means multiple personalities and lives, yet they didn’t explore those much. The writers should have given opportunity for the viewers to learn about sculptures and art rather than leaving the topic as a bypassing. A few times Nabi and other students had to present their projects or art related materials but those were left unseen. The background stories of everyone except Nabi were not explored at all: their families, earlier education or experiences, etc. Moving on, some gatherings or group hangouts being offered, although the act of group talks while eating felt too repetitive throughout the series. Though with the negative points I had mentioned, the glimpse of university life depicts a proper life without pandemic very well.
As I have had mentioned by the show having a great potential, it truly did when it comes to the supporting elements. The OST is terrific, definitely one of the best among this year’s Kdramas. All of songs are notably easy-listening while adding flavor to the stories (special mention to Sam Kim’s Love Me Like That, Kimmuseum’s We’re Already, and J.UNA’s Butterfly). Another excellent point is the cinematography. Every single shot expresses the situation, expressions, and additional meanings of the characters’ actions immensely. Although I found many vents on social media regarding Song Kang being lacking in acting or other stuffs, the portrait shots are excellent. Another thing I would like to point out are the sets that felt natural whether it comes to the studio, the hostel when the students went to another city, or many others.
The story of Park Jae-eon and Yoo Nabi might have left mixed impressions among the viewers. However, the whole journey was quite enjoyable. I watched Nevertheless mostly as a side drama and just once a week while watching other series that were “darker”. So this one was a nice fresh breath of air. Perhaps, one of the reasons I quite enjoy this drama was because I never really take things as seriously and overly passionate as heavier series. This drama can be classified as just *another* kdrama with the final result, nevertheless it had a cute run.
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