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Yin & War will steal your heart
The best way to sum up this show is to say it's a breath of fresh air. I know we've gotten quite a few action based BLs ever since the Kinn Porsche hype, but none of them really held my attention for long. This show, on the other hand, has me squealing, crying, and more invested in the lives of fictional characters than I probably should be.It's not a perfect show, but it doesn't really matter because it has one major thing going for it: the acting. Honestly, everyone is great in their roles, but the stars of the show are undoubtedly Yin and War. I knew they were solid actors with decent chemistry, but in this they're phenomenal. They both embody their characters so well, portray emotion in realistic ways, have so much charisma, and fantastic comedic timing. But what's even more impressive is their chemistry. It's been quite a while since I've witnessed that much chemistry between two actors. There aren't just sparks, no. These two could burn a house down. And the best thing is that they don't even need scenes that rely on physical intimacy to portray that. All they need is talking to each other (or well, fighting with each other because damn, they were just flirting), and sparks are flying left, right, and centre. It was obvious from the first scene they had together (their conversation at the bar), persisted through the scenes where one hated the other (without the chemistry diminishing the conflicting emotions), and is still going strong by the end.
Another special mention goes to Pee as Hope. While he does get some sort of redemption arc, he was horrible for the first part of the show, and I wanted to hate him. I really did. It's just that Pee makes him so charming and charismatic that I couldn't. I call this the Vegas dilemma, because Bible made it impossible to hate that guy, too.
I will say, if you're looking for a BL with a lot of romantic scenes, you won't find it here. At least not at the start. Because they go through a journey from instant infatuation to hatred to trust and love, there aren't many "fluffy" scenes in the first few episodes. Episode 6 then makes up for all that by giving you all the domestic wholesomeness, and I was eating it up. Their relationship definitely isn't smooth sailing after that, so there are a lot of angsty scenes instead of romantic ones. But even if there aren't as many cute scenes as in a campus BL for example, it doesn't really matter, because Yin and War make every scene they share together electric. So I'd rather have a few really solid romantic scenes than drawn out, washed out, lacklustre scenes with zero chemistry like so many other BLs tend to deliver these days.
Another thing to love about the show is its characters. Specifically them feeling like actual people with actual feelings and lives, not just walking stereotypes. Jack and Joker are obviously the most fleshed out, but most of the side characters also get more than just one defining trait. It's also refreshing that most of them are morally gray. This makes the whole show more emotionally complex, and makes the viewer think about some moral dilemmas. It's not the height of complex characters, but if you compare it to the standard most BLs have, it feels like these people are deep as the Atlantic Ocean, honestly.
But not just the characters, also their dynamics are interesting. Of course there's the whole forgiveness arc between Jack and Joker, but there are also interesting parent-child and friendship dynamics. I also really liked the dynamic between Jack and his coach. Granted, most of those aren't explored as much as I would've liked, but at least there was an attempt.
If you're a lover of action in shows, I'm not sure whether you'll like this. The heists they pull are fun to watch for me, aka someone who doesn't really care about the ins and outs of robbery etc. But even I realise that a lot of things don't really make all that much sense. There's a severe lack of security cameras and guards, for example. The show also uses Hannah Montana logic, because apparently if someone is wearing a wig and sunglasses, you won't recognise them anymore. For me, it's easy to look past that because it's entertaining, but for some it might be really bothersome, so I figured I'd mention it. There's also the problem that severe injuries are treated as minor ones. Characters who get beaten black and blue move with ease the next scene. That sort of robs you from a bit of suspense, because you know when someone gets smashed up, they'll be fine the next day.
I do think that the first half of the show is stronger in what it's trying to do. It does get a bit repetitive after that and a bit unhinged. Though Jack continuously trying and failing to get out of the criminal cycle he's in does feel like a somewhat realistic portrayal. Still, I think the show would've been better if it were only 8 to 10 really good episodes, instead of starting to meander.
I've seen many people discuss whether the humour of the show is a good or bad thing. Personally, I enjoy some of it but it does get a little too cringe at times (like manic, evil cackling). Personally, I like when an otherwise heavy/dark show throws in enough humour to lighten the whole thing up a bit. I appreciated it about Kinn Porsche, and I appreciate it here. However, some of it does clash a little bit too harshly with the otherwise grittier vibe. For example, I think that Arun is a bit too over the top, kind of like Tankhun from Kinn Porsche. I was kind of disappointed by how they handled his character since they never really committed to exploring the troubled relationship with his father, and he got adjusted to a life without money way too easily. Speaking of Kinn Porsche, though, Vegas' dad would definitely get along swimmingly with Arun's dad. Maybe Arun and Vegas could start a support group for children of abusive mafia fathers.
When I talk about the "grittier" vibes, I mean the show not shying away from depicting the reality of poverty and other social issues. Obviously, it's a bit extreme and sometimes very unsubtle, but it feels nice to get a more realistic depiction of the world than all the perfect utopias many other BLs create for their characters to live in. Seriously, the worst thing that can happen to most BL leads is a bit of rain that leads to a cold. Which would lead to a homoerotic sponge bath, and who would want that, right? Speaking of sponge baths, this series doesn't rely on old, tired BL cliches and tropes which also makes it feel unique and fresh.
Another positive is the beautiful styling and cinematography. The series is shot beautifully, and the editing is on point, too. No needless flashbacks for once, which I appreciate. They started the story where it needed to start, then flashed forward to where they needed to be, instead of filling the whole damn thing with flashback after flashback (I'm looking at you, First Note Of Love). There are some fun twists in there, and the show moves at a pretty decent pace, though sometimes it is a bit fast for me, and I would like some more downtime for the characters to just build their bonds. And it does fall off its course a little by the end, if you ask me.
Even thought there are flaws, I was thoroughly entertained, and each episode, I fell more and more in love with Yin and War. They were always on my radar, but this show has catapulted them to be my second favorite BL ship currently (only second to FirstKhaotung, because they are my one true loves). All in all, I had a great time with this series. It's not a perfect show, but in the sea of the same stories being told over and over again in Thai BL, this feels different enough to stand out in a positive light. And since I'm a very chemistry driven BL watcher, this one is a massive treat. Bravo!
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Whatever it served perfectly for me
◾Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart!"Jack and Joker" is a Thai series that breaks the usual mold.The depth of emotions wrapped by incredible acting with great visuals. Even though there's really some plot holes but the production quality is great, with beautifully crafted sets and thoughtful cinematography(not overall just camera angles were pretty smooth)that enhances every episode.The soundtrack, too, deserves a mention; it perfectly complements the narrative, evoking the right emotions at the right times. Two protagonists (Yin anan & War wanarat)overflowing with talent, masculinity, and beauty, it takes us on a roller coaster ride that's hard to recover from.The chemistry between YinWar is inevitable, making every scene they share both compelling and emotional.
🔻There's a severe lack of security cameras and guards, the bank is so big, but when joker got into the office there is no cctv camera. Fighting scenes and action scenes are poorly written and executed. Even though Jack & Joker characters are well written still there's merely any character development. Tattoo,Hoy,arun for them I don't see any future cause they actually can't do anything to bear their living costs. Near the end, it gets weird and silly. They try to fit so many aspects into one show like 'catch me if you can ', ' mission impossible' but actually people will really wonder why people there consider him a "legendary master thief".
📍They had low budget and they did thousands times better than many big budgets Thai bls. So no complaints against anything related to budget. The way the held gun exactly perfect👏🏻.As thai shows (and honestly BL in general) go, this is not even close to the unrealistic writing I have seen. But the emotions they delivered which made my satisfaction lv ♾️.
🫠: For me the the Plot was YinWar and it severed absolutely outstanding . So, it's 100/10 for me anyway.
📌Joker didn't rob jack of anything except his hopes and dreams, incidents with Toi Ting,their forehead touch was brilliantly executed and my most fav scene among all.
Overall, I would describe this show as exceptional thus far, and it has certainly set a high standard for future series in this genre. They started an opening which will always be iconic forever..
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Jack and Joker says it alll!!
Wooow..What a nice story..I just finished watching the drama. First of all this drama has a different and unique story compared to many Bls released during this year. I would say that this is one of the best Bls so far in 2024!Apart from the storyline, actors did a good job in acting including all main and sub characters of the story. Omggg the romance was sooo good and especially the main cp chemistry was gooddd..The story had some comedy touch in to it and was also romantic and emotional at times..
Music was nice and the type that makes your heart flutter..All in all the whole drama was goodd and I don’t think there’s much negativity to the drama..Unless you just find some parts cringey..That’s all..Enjoy!!
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Just Amazing!!
I just loved the whole story, acting, character development, cinematography and everything.This drama has made me cry, laugh, tense in some situations. It was a whole roller-coaster ride.
I loved that every character had their important part and were not left hanging just for the sake of building up the story.
Joke is an amazing character as he always tries his best to make everyone happy around him qnd doesn't want to let others down.
Development of Jack's character is very interesting how an innocent boy turns into a Grim Reaper but is still kind.
Jack and Joke are so much in love with each other that they always support and protect each other in difficult situations.
War and Yin has acted so well!!!
Tattoo, Hoy, Arun, Save, Hope every person had important part in the story.
Not to forget the Grandma's character... she is so good- a very cool and supportive grandma who wants happiness for his grandchild.
I just loved everything about this drama.
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Stellar performance with a plot that scatters your emotions
• Jack & Joker: U steal my Heart has a plot that is all over the place and can create a surge of emotions in viewers. The hype around the show was given justice through the acting skills of each and every actor and the chemistry showcased by the main leads.•First, lets talk about the plot, shall we. I did not see the pilot teaser of this show and went straight ahead with the episodes, thinking that synopsis gave me a good idea of what I'm going to watch. From what I understood through the synopsis is that Jack and Joker, though with clashing personalities and challenging jobs (as a debt collector and thief respectively), end up joining forces for some sort of grand heist, developing a love-hate relationship. Never in a billion dreams did I think I would face a shared past with this "Strangers to Friends to Enemies to Lovers" troupe. It's not bad, but it's not what I expected. Nevertheless, I didn't let that stop me from watching. But going on forward, the show gave me a heavy sense of deja vu with it's romance side of story. JackJoker's relationship felt similar to that of VeeMark in Love Mechanics (which also starred YinWar). That did not sit right, especially given how sneaky and playful Joker should be (Mark was an emotional and heartbroken mess because of Vee). Joker's character fizzled out from being a fearless and feisty thief to a lovesick fool in search of redemption. Jack was no better. At first, his anger towards Joker felt reasonable, but then in the second half his anger and hatred towards Joker got me conflicted. Joker saved him from being lifelong indebted to that boss by stealing the ring, but Jack never saw that, and instead felt it as betrayal cause Joker had promised to never steal. But then again, the theft had resulted in Toi Ting (a young girl for whom they both cared) getting into critical condition as she was physically abused by the boss's henchmen, which only justifies his anger towards Joker to an extent. There was also this confusion I had gotten regarding as to how a normal ring had so much power, but the last episode did give me a bit of explanation. Then there was a robbery at the bank by Joker, which was executed pretty unrealistically. And the whole game thing in last episode felt petty to me. But the whole "Plan A, B, C" situation in episode 11 definitely lightened my mood, and I was surprised to find Hope tagging along. The entire story has given me mixed feelings though.
•If the plot gave me reasons to criticize the show, the acting gave me a reason to love it. War has always been a phenomenal actor. His emotional range and versatility have always left me speechless. Jack & Joker is definitely a step up for him. The quirky disguises which Joker took on, especially that of the make up lady, proved just how fantastic he is as an actor. The aggressive ways in which he flirted with Jack were equally amusing and entertaining to watch. Then in the second half of the story he devoured the angst scenes. His sorrowful cries showed how much he was in, pain, especially when Jack told him to never show his face. The pain he had after he got rejected by his father was also sad to watch. And of course, the sulky and devastated look he had in his face watching Jack entertain Rosé as if she were his lover. War as Joker is one of the best casting of this year. Yin is also significantly improving. He was able to convey the grudge Jack holds against Joker as well as the discomfort he had after being forced into a relationship with Rosé. His action scenes were also fantastic and well done. He is also a perfect casting for the role. The chemistry between the two is always a winner for me. Though their romance was slow burn and had lots of ups and downs, I enjoyed every minute of when they were together. Those kisses were chef's kiss and Jack's simple proposal in the end was adorable. I just wished that Joker would've had a proper apology from Jack for having brutally berated him. But the acting and chemistry of YinWar was the key highlight of the show.
•This shows side characters were also memorable. I never thought that there would be some sort of romantic tension between Aran and Tattoo. And though they weren't given the screentime and closure expected from them, I was actually somehow contented with what I had got from them. I was surprised that I actually like the HopeSave couple. Despite the fact that they both had done from bad things to Jack, I must say that I admired the fact that Hope stayed by Save's side and understood the latter's situation. Their redemption arc was what I needed and it kind of filled up the space of mind demanding for Aran and Tattoo. Holy was a great friend to Joker and Tattoo and I loved his funny ideas. Jack's Grandma was a whole different vibe. Her being considerate towards Joker, fangirling and shipping her grandson and Joker, and fighting with boss's henchmen were first class bl fangirl things. She was very relatable. Ting was very cute and I really felt my blood boil after seeing how ruthlessly she was attacked. Rosé gives me mixed feelings, but I mostly feel happy that she let Jack go in the end. Joker's family felt like completely jerks to me in the starting, but them wanting to rekindle with him and accepting him was good for me as long as it made Joker happy. And we don't talk about the boss and Carbon........just that they got what they deserved in the end....... humiliation.
•Overall, the saving grace for this story is clearly it's cast, it's production, the chemistry of YinWar and the comedic relief scenes. It had ambition, but failed in it's execution, but still managed to retain a few elements to keep the viewers entertained.
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I crave for more..
A refreshing premise that goes beyond the usual bl recipe and dares to experiment with other genres, by blending comedy with action and drama. Each episode --while lengthy-- is so enjoyable that you don't find yourself getting bored or tired.However, it suffered on the writing department. After a point the plot expanded so much it took so many directions that the focus got disturbed with some aspects of the series getting neglected; like the romance, the development of the side characters, even the main leads I feel didn't get the attention they deserved. Either the show should have had more episodes, so that all the plotlines could have gotten properly developed or the focus should have remained in a smaller scale of things and leave room for the characters to gradually grow both emotionally and mentally, because now it left me with the sense that I didn't get my closure. The show itself had set the bar so high in the first episodes, that I expected to see some things happen that I didn't get to after all..
Acting wise it was beautiful. It was my first time watching these actors and I loved their performances. Yin and War as a tv couple have that unique chemistry that gave me butterflies even when they only exchanged looks and that's something you rarely see.
Overall, the series is good and I really loved it! Definitely a fun journey for the viewer and I recommend it to anyone who isn't looking for a standard romance.
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Sem atalhos e Sem pressa e o BL Entregou Tudo
Essa série tem praticamente tudo, para ser sincero, há ação, drama e romance com um enredo provocativo. Os personagens também são bem desenvolvidos, a história é interessante e os visuais são realmente bonitos de se ver. Além disso, não foge muito das questões do mundo real, então se você está cansado de romances e quer algo novo, adicione-o à sua lista.Cinematografia:
Na minha opinião, a série é impressionante aos olhos, o que é um feito raro em dramas BL, mas aqui, a cinematografia captura a opulência brilhante e superficial dos ricos com as realidades cruas da pobreza muito bem.
Sem atalhos e Sem pressa:
Quando ele deixou de lado aquela raiva ao perdoar Joker, ele começou a se encontrar novamente e a maneira como a amizade deles reacendeu tão lentamente, tão naturalmente foi o que a tornou ainda mais poderosa. Não houve pressa, nem atalhos, apenas uma lenta reconstrução da confiança. Observá-los se apaixonando, pedaço por pedaço, momento a momento, foi muito gratificante depois de todas as emoções que passei com esse show. No final, acho que foi mais uma questão de cura do que apenas de amor. Eles se tornaram o porto seguro um do outro.
O BL terminou do jeito que estava imaginando e atendeu minhas expectativas. Alguns pontos das histórias mereciam um olhar mais cauteloso, considerando o todo, foi maravilhosa.
©Direitos reservados ao cinéfilo - @Pi_MarcioR_br | Sarawat e Tine
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Mess... not in a good way.
It walked this very narrow line between a parody and serious action drama and fell down to the cold circus floor.I know I will be a minority here, but I don't think this show is good. The story isn't really what you expect it to be and when you try to adjust to the silliness and light tone of it all, the show gets dark and serious out of the blue.
The premise is about clever thief, who uses his wits to outbest his oponents. He steals from the rich, gives it to the poor and he looks cool doing it. But -
none of the roberries make sense. Logic and common sense flew out of the window and everything that happend was the most random shenanigans i have ever seen. This is present in the entire show.
Multiple times per this series the plot advanced by playing random luck based games where to soundtrack would like you to think that thats the most tense scene ever (it was not).
I feel like the entire script was a first draft. They knew what they wanted to happen but didn't know how to make it happen. And when we run out of plot we throw in some random plot points to get to the finale. And all of it is a big shame because the actors are good, the show looks good (soundtrack sucks but that I can live with), the message about poor people struggling to fulfill their dreams while rich people use their leverage over them was attempted but ultimately under used. On rare occasions, there is some really good character work but that's the end of positives.
And one of the worst down sides? We get Jack and Joke dating for only 3 episodes. Even less because the curse of episode 11 is strong and omnipresent in the bl genre. Yinwar are the best actors in the industry but that alone wont save this show, relaying on their chemistry only makes the show limp from start to finish. The worst it is that we don't see all that much of them.
I am sad but, hey? Do you like the show and had blast watching it? Good for you. I would only recommend if you are hardcore Yinwar fan.
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Precisavamos disso!
Finalmente senti algo novo, que estava faltando. Humor e ação, é ótimo sair da bolha do colegial e do fofinho para as situações trágicas e letais.Os personagens são bastante amáveis e engraçados, as situações que a guangue se encontra é sempre surpreendente, essa mistura de humor com algo parecido a "assalto ao banco" traz uma boa dose de suspense.
O modo como retratam Joke como alguém que sempre busca o perdão e as desculpas, é algo bem humano (mas estou pronto para ver o Wanarat em outros papéis), sinto que isso fez ele ser bem aprofundado. No entanto, Jack ser explosivo e colérico, trás uma boa perspectiva de diferentes personalidades, isso enquanto ele ainda é doce.
Khun Rose faz um ótimo papel, trazendo profundidade no relacionamento entre Jack e Joker, e, principalmente, dela com Jack. Hoy e Tatto são super engraçados e cômicos, trazendo um alívio cômico que necessitava. (Apenas senti falta do racionamento desenvolvido de Tatto e Arun).
A jogada do plot-twist foi bem pensado, sinto que talvez tenha sido muito, mas trouxe um bom resultado no final.
O romance realmente tenha sido pouco, mas tenho uma opinião impopular. O romance nem sempre resume-se à beijo e outras coisas, pare para pensar que tudo que Jack e Joker fizeram por eles, foi por amor. Precisamos sair dessse estereótipo de um romance doce e pegajoso.
Com isso, findo.
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Nath
Absolutamente incrível.Jack and Joker é um drama muito emocionante, com uma ambientação bem trabalhada e história envolvente. Quando você pensa: "ah, ele não faria isso..." a história simplesmente se desenvolve com um trama ainda mais impressionante do que o esperado. Fora a relação do Jack e do Joke, que também é uma coisa tão pura e genuína, nos trazendo para o mundo deles onde cada um faria de tudo um pelo outro e pelos amigos.
Eu assistiria de novo, as cenas de ação e o plot twist do final foram bem construídas; porém, sinto que se tivéssemos mais um episódio, as coisas poderiam ser mais explicadas. Tirando isso, Jack and Joker é definitivamente um dos melhores BL's desse ano em todos os aspectos.
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Repetitive plot structure. Underdeveloped character arcs
The series presents a narrative with stagnant characters, Jack and Joker, who repeatedly fall into similar problematic situations without meaningful growth, despite initial hints of depth. Save's betrayal of friends, including an attempt to poison a grandmother, further highlights the series' shallow character development. While the talented cast attempts to elevate the material, the show fails to meaningfully explore serious themes like childhood poverty, instead using them as superficial plot devices. The comedy falls flat due to poor editing, and the relationships, though unique, lack emotional complexity. Ultimately, the series might appeal to viewers seeking unconventional romantic dynamics but falls short of delivering a sophisticated or transformative storytelling experience.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
Joker is giving everything and we love it
I love everything about Joke. Like literally everything. His voice, the way he speaks so softly to Jack, his face, his tattoos, his smirks. And the way he kisses? This man is H-U-N-G-R-Y. I can't say enough about how complex and fine this character felt to me.But sadly this is mostly everything that I liked. The rest is... Just weird. Things and especially change of feelings happen way too fast, some directing choices just flabbergasted me and Boss character... Don't let me started. It seemed like he is trying to be the villain we deserve so much but his portrayer looked more like drama kid with mental issues who definitely is not the main character but tries hard to be one. Damn, I'm sort of disappointed but overall I think that the chemistry and story are good enough but let's not kid ourselves Joker is the light of this show! I would recommend watching this just for him.
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