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Misunderstood
I'n only writing this after reading lots of reviews that bash some of the plot choices they chose to make in the drama. I think the direction of the story and character development is partly misunderstood by most people. I do share some opinions but i want to lay out other possible meanings.The story feels quite purposely made to be open to interpretation, but it also explains a lot about the characters in a way that it's not directly conveyed, but rather "alluded" unto, and it can easily be missed depending on how you take it. Let's tackle different points.
Yuno's victims: it's easy to question why did his victims ever go to meet a stranger that they knew absolutely nothing about. Yet this does happen in real life. Hell, even i am guilty of this. So it's not that unbelievable. Besides, Yuno might have tried to lure other people that were not shown maybe because his tactics failed and they were smart enough not to pursue him, so they never fell to be his victims. Maybe they only showed us the women he succeeded into luring, and coincidentally, only the women that were lonely and horny enough to take such a risk.
Yuno's backstory: this is most commonly misunderstood as something that was not dwelved into enough, and while it's true, they actually gave us important information during a scene where the bestfriend trio was talking about how mentally deranged individuals work. They talked about childhood trauma being closely connected to one's mental health and such, but they also said that some people just never want to change, be it traumatic childhood or not. This could very well be our peak into Yuno's past. We know his mother abandoned him, but that can be the reason he became a sociopath as well as a fruitless detail, as we know too little to establish if it was traumatic enough. Maybe Yuno was born with sociopathic tendencies that were only accelerated by certain things happening such as his mother's abandonment, or the first time he's shown killing a woman by choking her during sex. Maybe his mom abandoned him exactly because she feared being around her son, so it was not a trauma induced disorder at all. Or maybe his mom (or dad) absolutely abused the shit out of him and they made him be what he is (was) today. Could be any of these.
Gieun: this is the one thing i agree with as her being dumb asf. I just kept forgetting that she was a cop because she made choices so dumb i hardly believe anyone would make, let alone a cop, such as the second encounter with Yuno. She really thought she did something when she showed up the second time alone in her scary wheelchair, ready to confront the very same FLEXIBLE man that let her out to die. Great thinking. I couldn't empathize with her.
Shaman lesbian: while i get that that was thrown into the plot randomly, i feel like it adds to the realism of the show. It shows that people have unconventional upbringings, it makes it feel less "planned", if it makes sense? Just like real people. She goes out clubbing, she goes with many women, she is dedicated to her shaman lifestyle be it for family reasons or whatev, that's fine. This is a character that has a life outside of her usefulness to the main story. That alone deepens her character. I felt like the very fact that she was a lesbian but opposingly also a shaman, showed her character well.
Besides these misunderstood points, i can only criticize some of the dialogue. I get it - it's made to be driven by silence. Subtlety in the acting, in their expressions. Even selfinterpretation. But sometimes i feel like they overdid this side, only to take a lot from the dialogue, leaving it almost superficial and nonsensical at times.
But again, this can also be interpreted as it being intentional. Yuno and Kim Sum fell in love not over talking for hours and hours about all kinds of things, but over saying only what is necessary, and most importantly, they fell in love over recognizing their similarities and shared needs. They needed each other for what they lacked and what they had. They needed each other because they were both alone, because they were both misunderstood by the rest of the world. It's something deeper than saying "its unrealistic how they fell in love, they barely even talked."
Overall, i think this was a fine drama. The actors showed impeccable acting, as the acting was what held this drama up. The ost had some memorable moments for me, like when they played that beautiful cover of Scarborough fair. I liked how they managed to fit that song into a sadder, more grim rendition.
My score is not a 10 because of the poor dialogue in certain parts (where it was needed) and the weird ass blunder by Gieun. And also because i did not think it was THAT great of a story.
Thank you for reading my take on it.
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Un synopsis intéressant mais...
Le drama 'Somebody' a attiré pas mal de monde grâce à son synopsis très intriguant qui donne envie aux amateurs de thriller de le voirMais malheureusement les mise en scène, le scénario et la cinématographie de ce drama s'avèrent être gênant et mal exécuter.
Beaucoup de scène trop longue et angoissante (comme la course poursuite dans le bâtiment) et d'autre scène trop courte qui mérite plus de développement
De plus la drama est beaucoup trop vulgaire pour moi et certaines scène à caractère s*xu*l n'avait pas leur place (quand Sum se m__turbe en regardant YunO droit dans les yeux)
et beaucoup de choses ne tiennent pas debout (des femmes acceptent des rdv eloigné de la ville/pas dans des lieux publics avec un homme après l'avoir parlé une fois par message)
Maintenant passons aux personnages :
- premier lieu parlons du personnage de YunO
YunO est un jeune architecte, qui a une vie stable et réussi dans sa vie, qui n'a pas de réel raison de tuer ces jeunes femmes. Dans un des épisodes (celui que j'attendais le plus peut-être) on découvre le pourquoi du comment YunO tue, et on se rend compte que sa première victime n'était pas intentionnelle et qu'il a ensuite pris goût à tuer. Sans plus d'explications.
Deuxième, il se dit amoureux de Sum, mais les deux n'ont jamais eu le temps de construire quelque chose de réel, j'étais vraiment choquée quand YunO affirmait aimer Sum car il ne s'était vu que deux fois et s'était très peu parler ces jours là.
Pour finir il est assez illogique, sa manière de choisir les filles qu'ils laissent en vie n'est pas logique
- Kim Sum
Aucune personnalité, elle n'a pas de très de caractère et est un personnage inintéressant et tour comme YunO elle est très illogique
Elle protège YunO car elle l'aime, tout en sachant qu'il a fait du mal à son amie et qu'il aime tuer. Mais à la fin elle se permet de le tuer au lieu d'appeler la police pour régler cette histoire
Pour moi Sum aussi mérite la prison car tout comme YunO elle aime tuer
Pour conclure on a un synopsis en or mais mal travaillé, le scénariste aurait dû travailler d'avantage sur une développement des personnages et pas nous lancer des choses qui ont très peu de sens à leur sujet
De plus la romance de Sum et YunO est très peu développée et leur couple sort un peu de nulle part
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Subjectively dreadful
This review is not a synopsis of the storyline, but rather a rant about the cinematography.While I personally found the story itself interesting, and the characters initially intriguing, the whole show was awfully produced. From unnecessarily long, one-cut scenes (imagine a regular show where a scene sometimes feels long-winded, slow and awkward, then multiply that by 10) and a lot of silent, eventually extremely boring moments, each episode became exceedingly more dreadful. I understand the producers were attempting to create an eery, uncomfortable feeling with this, but they dragged each scene on for a lot longer than needed. This type of cinematography might be perfect to some (few) people, but I would argue the average person would lose interest rather quick and find it annoying.
I found myself yawning a lot and skipping 2-3 minutes every time there was a sex scene or emotional scene, because basically nothing was said or done for most of the duration that could not be summarised in the first 10 seconds. It's not that it even made me feel awkward (which it did), it just felt so insanely and dreadfully boring.
The show had so much potential and the two main characters were well-written, although sometimes irrational and confusing (I assume that's what psychopaths are like and the producer wanted to convey that). I feel it's a shame it got butchered by an awful attempt at being different and "edgy".
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Should've been either a movie or a 16-ep season
Just finished this show, first I need to note that I watched the entire series with noise cancelling headphones and 10/10 would recommend, I LOVED the soundtrack and felt it completely enhanced my entire viewing of this series. The suspense scenes especially.It is kind of a confusing show, but that's why I give it a higher rewatch value, I feel like it deserves 2 watches to grasp the story a lot better.
Now for the title of my review; I think that they could've cut out a lot of scenes/made a lot of scenes shorter (the space 39 scene especially) and it would've done well as a movie, albeit probably a little bit more confusing. But I also believe they could've fleshed everything out so much more to stretch it to a 12 if not 16 ep series as I'm left with so many (basic) questions about the main characters. The scar on Yun O's back? What his mom actually did to him? The accident that left Gi Eun in this state, and more about her past as an officer, how she met Mok-Won, more about Sum's parents & upbringing. I could go on and on.
Anyways, still think it's worth the watch and will hopefully rewatch it in the future!
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É um dos piores doramas que eu já vi, é horriveeel
Tem um conceito interessante, mas uma execução horrível.No primeiro episódio, a historia começa bem, somos apresentados a uma garota introvertida que mexe com programação. Ela cria uma espécie de chat gpt no arcade dela e o apresenta em uma feira tecnológica, uma empresaria a descobre nessa feira e a contrata. Desde então, ela trabalha sendo diretora de um aplicativo de namoro, aplicativo esse que está sendo usado por um serial killer para atrair vitimas. Esse começo ilude o telespectador a acreditar que vai ser uma trama focada em investigação, cheia de suspense. Mas a partir desse ponto, a historia e qualidade do roteiro vão descendo em uma ladeira.
Não tem foco algum em investigação, vários assassinatos em série acontecem mas ninguém da policia além da detetive vai atrás do assassino. É como se nada estivesse acontecendo.
A protagonista, é representação completamente deturpada e estereotipada de autismo. É dito que ela foi diagnosticada com autismo na infância (e pra piorar, a série ainda usa um termo que caiu em desuso "asperger") mas sua personalidade é de uma pessoa fria, sem empatia e que sente "prazer em matar". Estão levantando o estereotipo de "autista que não sente empatia" e confundindo o autismo com psicopatia, é uma escrita terrível e um desserviço gigantesco pra comunidade autista. Foi o completo oposto da representação positiva e maravilhosa que tivemos em Uma Advogada Extraordinária, que inclusive lançou no mesmo ano que essa porcaria.
E a detetive, que inclusive ficou cadeirante por ter sofrido um acidente, tinha uma historia interessante e grande potencial, mas se mostrou uma pessoa burra e inconsequente que vai SOZINHA atrás do serial killer em um lugar abandonado que está sendo destruído. É completamente bizarro uma detetive com anos de experiencia agir dessa forma.
Não recomendo pra nenhum de vocês, porque é simplesmente um dos piores doramas que eu já vi na vida, e até agora é o pior do catalogo da netflix, com um roteiro confuso, ruim, horrível que nunca leva a historia a lugar nenhum. Não assistam esse esperando uma grande historia de investigação, porque não tem, é um lixo confuso e sem sentido.
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calmo e pazzo allo stesso tempo
Sono molto molto perplessa.Inizio con dire che in sè questa serie è la pazzia, la rappresenta completamente; quel tipo di pazzia che si trova nell’ombra della calma, tutto sembra così calmo e rilassante ma si cela una grande pazzia, in tutto e in tutti.
Sin da quando l’ho iniziato non capivo nulla, stavo lì con tanti punti interrogativi e la fine è il più grande dei punti interrogativi che abbia mai provato.
In generale, i personaggi di Sum e Yun-ho sono dei pazzi psicopatici, nel caso di Sum in parte si può “giustificare” per il suo disturbo ma nel caso di Yun-ho non sappiamo se soffra di qualcosa e quindi sembra tutto così surreale.
Però dico che non ci dobbiamo far scioccare da questa surrealtà perchè in realtà esiste, esistono persone che provano piacere nell’uccidere, è la loro identità, il loro io, il loro essere se stessi; è ingiustificabile questo loro piacere ma anche impossibile da cambiare, secondo me perchè se una persona la pensa in un modo e ha degli hobby e delle passioni ben precise, nessuno potrà far diventare quella persona diversa da com’è, almeno nella loro anima perché in apparenza si può sempre fingere.
Se vogliamo poi mettere in mezzo la presenza o meno dei genitori durante l’infanzia, sono d’accordo con la sciamana, anche se i genitori sono presenti nella vita delle persone, nessuno dice che queste non potranno sviluppare sentimenti di odio e ira nei confronti degli altri, certo la situazione genitori è anche parte della nostra identità, se i nostri genitori non ci vogliono bene potremmo crescere col bisogno costante di affetto e traumi di vario genere ma è anche vero che in una mente criminale come quella di Yun-ho, non si riuscirà a smuovere qualcosa ma solo ad aggiungere e questo anche nei casi di menti “sane”.
Tutto ciò che riguarda i loro personaggi (Sum e Yun-ho) è dannatamente difficile da comprendere, la loro voglia di uccidere non deriva da ragioni ben precise ma dalla loro personalità, poche volte in questa serie abbiamo visto Yun-ho uccidere per vendetta, come nel caso delle persone “è roba da ragazzo”, poi per il resto ha sempre ucciso per piacere personale.
Solo con Sum la cosa è stata diversa, era come se Yun-ho volesse ucciderla ma allo stesso tempo rinchiuderla in una gabbia e tenerla tutta per sé, Yun-ho è sempre stato molto possessivo nei suoi confronti, l’ho visto soprattutto quando ha chiesto sia a Samantha che alla sciamana se Sum le appartenesse. Una cosa che non capisco è perché ha anche deciso di farle del male, come nel caso del tentato strupro e nel caso in cui ha distrutto Someone, è tutto così irrazionale.
Anche da parte di Sum questo era un amore molto speciale, finalmente aveva incontrato qualcuno come lei, che avesse la mente come lei, le abitudini come le sue ecc, eppure alla fine l’ha ucciso, ha agito e sinceramente non so ancora spiegarmi il perchè di questo, non l’ho capito affatto.
In generale è tutto molto incasinato e strano ma ci sembra strano perchè non capiamo bene la mente di chi ama uccidere, ovviamente se non siamo come loro.
L’episodio finale è quello che mi ha lasciato perplessa più di tutti, non capisco come possa essere finito così, è come se nulla fosse stato concluso seriamente: l’indagine con la polizia, Samantha (non so perchè ma mi sembra come se sapesse cose che non sappiamo), la sciamana, Sum, la ragazza sulla sedia a rotelle….sembra come se nulla fosse stato veramente concluso ed è per questo che penso ci sarà una seconda stagione (almeno spero).
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Spannend und langweilig zugleich
Netflix hat eine Thriller-Serie produziert, die ich als "ganz okay" bezeichnen würde.Der Cast ist sehr gut gewählt und ihre Acting-Skills sind hervorragend. Die Story ist nicht sehr detailreich bzw. umfasst kein breites Spektrum. An sich ist es schon spannend, aber ich war sehr froh, als die Serie rum war. Es gibt keinen Spannungsbogen. So würde ich die Serie auch niemals ein weiteres Mal schauen. Die Musik war auf jeden Fall passend - es gab oft sanfte und langsamere BGM, die an sich auch sehr gut war.
Womöglich sind Produktionen aus diesem Genre generell nicht mein Geschmack.
Die deutschen Untertitel sind verständlich und fehlerfrei. Inzwischen haben sich die Übersetzter von/für Netflix stark verbessert.
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for those with a distinct taste
*Contains Spoilers*I liked the beginning. It was very promising and hitting the right spots in my brain. The whole drama in general is for people with a distinct taste. It is as someone else described it "poetic", it has an appreciation for art and detail. I felt like certain details were there for a reason even if not directly explainable. Toward the middle of the series I started getting a bit lost. I loved the romantic aspect of the lead male and female but I wished for something good to come out of it instead of taking it into such a dark tragic ending. Maybe because I am biased towards romance I expected something rather positive to come out of their relationship. Unfortunately the exact opposite happened. Then again, their romance LACKED emotion.
A lot of the time I felt odd watching this drama, it is almost as if the writer wanted us to view it from the female lead's point of view. Her mind, her distinct way of thinking, and perception of things. I did not feel comfortable watching it but I did not want to stop either.
I wish the drama was 16 episodes instead of 8, with more life to it, better turns of events, less simplicity, more sophistication, a rather happy ending than a tragic cold one, and more romance than emotionlessness... this is probably too much to ask for and it is never going to happen.
Now that I think about it, I just wish to see the two lead actors or one of them in a whole other romantic drama instead. I don't think this one was meant to be romantic anyway.
As for the serial killer, I wish we got more into his mind and personality. Like why did he suddenly turn into this person? a parentless childhood is not enough for me as a viewer to understand all of this violence and thirst for blood.
AS FOR THE ENDING?
What was THAAAT... I mean I saw it from a mile away that she is going to be the one to kill him, though I thought she would kill herself right after him. Staying alive after killing him was not that explainable... because all the time we saw her she seemed to genuinely like him. I know they might have wanted the viewer to be caught by surprise that she kills him after showing all this support/ liking for him, but I was not surprised. All that time I was wishing they would not go for this typical ending. I can see where they wanted to go with this whole drama but I feel like they did not have enough time to bring it to life, the writer could have added a lot more too. :(
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Well…
I Watched it 2 months ago and all I can say is, is that I truly think this is one of the most forgettable kdrama’s of this year. It’s slow, but not in the good type of slow. When the show gets interesting it then just brings your back interest down. Every woman that the killer hooks up with have no personality and all are just alike imo. The detectives are stupid. I don’t understand the ending at all…and sm other shit I can’t even put into words. I personally feel like the writers had many ideas they wanted to implement into the show without thinking how it would work yk.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
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Un bon thriller
Ce drama m'a captivée ; un tueur en série qui se sert d'une application de rencontres, j'ai trouvé ça intéressant. C'est un thriller psychologique assez mystérieux. Le jeu des acteurs est vraiment pas mal du tout ; je ne les connaissais pas et j'ai bien accroché. C'est intriguant jusqu'au bout. Ce qui est un peu ennuyeux c'est que c'est assez long ; mais chaque épisode est vraiment bien, on a de plus en plus de détails et l'enquête avance. Ce qui est original c'est que les trois copines et le tueur ont tous un truc particulier : l'une est chamane, l'autre est handicapée, l'actrice principale joue une fille atteinte d'asperger, et le tueur est un psychopathe. Donc, chacun a un rôle bien à lui et ça donne du style à l'histoire. Biensûr, des questions restent en suspend, ils auraient peut-être dû creuser un peu plus, mais sinon, j'ai apprécié ce drama.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
Λίγο απ' όλα και τελικά τίποτα
Μια σειρά με ιδιαίτερη αισθητική που ακροβατεί μεταξύ ρεαλισμού και δυστοπίας. Πειστικές ερμηνείες, σκηνές αγωνίας, μουντά χρώματα, ανατριχιαστική ατμόσφαιρα. Η σύγχυση που δημιουργεί στον θεατή η εξέλιξη της πλοκής που φαίνεται να μην είναι πολύ συγκεκριμένη εξ αρχής, η χλιαρή ανάπτυξη των χαρακτήρων και γενικότερα η κάπως χαοτική κατανομή των γεγονότων ανά επεισόδιο δεν σου δίνουν κανένα κίνητρο να συνεχίσεις τη σειρά. Ένα θρίλερ μυστηρίου που μάλλον βασίζεται στην προκλητικότητα των ιδεών και των σκηνών του ώστε να κρατήσει τον θεατή μέχρι το τέλος, κάτι που για πολλούς δε θα σταθεί αρκετό για να φτάσουν ως εκεί...Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
