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AT first I thought yeah this one is gonna bore me to death, but once I started I could not stop, this was funny and romantic , and yes there were some moments when you had to fan yourself because it got hot and heavy. What Got me most about this is it wasn't an easy story , like boy meets girl they fall in love everything is rosey, hardly. Boy meets girl then meets girl again, and again boy is a dog , he does whorish types of things, boy wants girl, girl wants boy but afraid because boy is a dog. would I watch this again... HECK YEAH I WOULD. The actors were great I was completely blown away with the story line it was very unexpected, but it worked... Love it love it love it.....Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
A wonderful show about a complex relationship
This is one of my all-time favorite shows. I've seen it multiple times. The ML character gets a lot of "flack" for being Toxic and never really sincere about his female friends. People who don't even know him and have only heard rumors about him call him a jerk. She starts to believe what she hears instead of what she has learned from being around him. But what is overlooked is that this is a story about two people who have been deeply hurt. Her former boyfriend treated her dismissively and without love. His Mother dropped in once in a while when she was travelling the world as a ballerina. He has not lived with her since he was 10 years old, and they hardly know each other. Their art school "friends" like him and include him in on gatherings because he is good looking, and Mom gave him a Maserati for his Birthday! They may have called him "insincere", but they sincerely loved it when he paid for their meals out and gave them rides in his car. He has survived by having sort of arm's length relationships and not revealing too much of himself. But the more time he spends at night with Nabi, the more attached he finds himself becoming. He treats her like a queen, makes gifts for her, helps her with her wrecked project and is just generally there for her. He notices that he has never felt this way about anyone before and doesn't know what to make of that. These two wounded people try hard in their own ways to navigate this new territory. She finally runs from it and the pressure she feels. She takes up with an old friend from her old town, but finally realizes that is not the right answer for her. I loved the ending, in which they get back together and go about seeing what their world will look like at that point - no guarantees - just holding hands. Both Song Kang and Han So Hee were perfectly cast in this intimate exploration of what is truly of value and must be protected.Vond je deze recentie nuttig?
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Honestly the only thing that kept me watching this story ware the secondary plot lines.
Honestly the only thing that kept me watching this story ware the secondary plot lines, the main CP was extremely annoying to watch.The plot was just kind of shit and there was a lot of unnecessary drama that wasn't even interesting or adding anything to the plot. There were quite a few plot points that were touched on during the story but never given a resolution at the end, such as Jae-eon's obsession with butterflies.
By the half of the show I was so sick and tired of the main ML and FL that I honestly just skipped through most of their scenes together. The continuous longing/yeaning looks were just annoying honestly because their actions never lined up with their words, or even just another action afterwards. Most of the scenes the main CP were in were always so somber and just depressing to look at. Oh also, the love triangle was totally Y/N style and I mentally clocked out through most of it haha.
Now! Let's talk about the other people in the show! Spoilers of course, but I'm so glad that Yoonsol and Jiwan actually got together at the end romantically. This is a great step forward more lgbtq+ representation and it was very cute to watch. Of course the rest of the writing did catch up with them as there were a few useless dramatic moments that got just skipped over later on but in general they were very adorable to watch.
My second favourite pair was probably Minyoung and Joohyuk- I didn't think they'd actually go through with the pairing from the beginning but they did and it was really fun to watch! There's not much development but as they're not any of the main pairs it made sense. It was just cute to watch. <3
I found Bitna and Kyuhyun's story to be a bit eye raising but in the end it wasn't all that annoying. Dude should've found a better person but I digress haha.
Other supporting cast members like 'the single guy', and the two in the 'they're so married' CP were also a fun watch! They felt like their own characters and were very entertaining to watch!
Overall, I found most of the show enjoyable, but the biggest chuck (main CP) was just a drag. I would only recommend this to people if you can bear skipping through a large chuck of the show because that's the only way it's bearable! :)
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blend of confusion and uncertainity
There's some unspoken stereotype in dramas and this one is in complete contrast to it. you get the Hollywood mindset vibes which are nice but the episodes felt really long. I really ff it or watched it while completing my assignments,Many parts of it seemed incomplete and given the number of episodes neither did I expect to get a complete story of the male lead however it would have been good if there's some background story.
The beginning really escalates well but then there's a sudden drop from there. I appreciate the effort they put in to show how "open-minded" relationships look like, along with that I feel there should also be some story other than just the chemistry.
I wonder if Song Kang is the epitome of sadness. I'm not saying it's a tragic drama but that's what I realized after watching it. I believe many would consider watching it only for the cast and I myself wanted to watch it coz of them, so I won't blame anyone for that matter.
There are things that we might regret nevertheless we still do them just like how I'm gonna regret staying up late until 4 A.M to complete the drama and review it nevertheless I'm still doing it with bloodshot eyes.
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terrible roomy very slow repetitive
lento, tedioso, cansativo, repetitivo, sem ação, horrível, perdi meu tempo assistindo isso, demorei uma semana pra assistir de tão chato que éVond je deze recentie nuttig?
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One of the worst kdramas I have watched
The show started out great. It was refreshing to see an adult relationship treated realistically rather than like two teenagers trying to figure out their first kiss like so many kdramas. After the initial "Wow, they are really doing it", it went downhill though. The female lead late in the series called herself pathetic in a voiceover and she was. I get the heart is going to do what the heart wants and she was obviously in lust with the male lead but she just showed no common sense. Obviously I don't know all of the psychology events the female lead has gone through in her life to get to this point in the story but to me, it seemed she was looking to be loved, to be part of a warm, loving relationship but her actions were always the opposite. She had just gotten out of one bad relationship and immediately jumped into another worse relationship taking no time to process her feelings. She spent most of the episodes looking miserable. You could tell she did not want to be in a friends with benefits relationship but her character was weak and continually let herself be drawn back in by the male lead even though it made her unhappy. Her actions were just not something that I could relate too.I know some people just fall under the spell of another and cannot help themselves but the scene in the rain should have been a big red flag to the female lead when the male lead showed his true colors. He physically assaulted her by twisting her arm, forcing her to drop the umbrella and he showed how cruel and manipulative he was but yet she ignored all of that in the end. That is when I truly felt she was just pathic and I lost interest in her character.
The whole second male lead part of the story could have been dropped because I knew she would not choose him in the end. She never showed one bit of affection towards the second male lead. She never held his hand, took his arm, hugged him or even thought of kissing him while she continually slept with the first male lead. The writer could have at least made it seemed as if she thought of the second male lead as more than just a friend and there was a possibility of them getting together in the end but I never got that feeling. She never gave the second male lead a chance so there was never a doubt that the second male lead was going to lose out even though he was offering her the type of loving relationship she wanted. It was just a waste of time, just filler.
The female lead seemed to despise the life her mother was leading, going from relationship to relationship but that is exactly the path the female lead was following. There is no way I could see her relationship with the male lead lasting. Even when the male lead was supposedly missing the female lead and wanting to change for her, he still picked up that woman in the bar, asking if she wanted to see his butterflies. The way that women flocked to the male lead, it was just a matter of time before some new, interesting woman came into his life and he would go back to his old ways.
Overall, who wants to spend hours watching a pitiful character be miserable and never learning, never changing and knowing that her life will be a train wreck.
P.S. Don't get me started on how ugly the art was. I know I am not sophisticated when it comes to art but what was the thing with the rail road ties? It look like it was just a fence. And the female leads sculpture was not much better.
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A really special one
For me, when watching a drama it is always important what kind of feelings it gives me. I can tell I'll love a drama when I get so involved in the drama that I literally can feel it. And I felt this one. It gave me feelings on another level, the atmosphere, music and everything was perfect! A totally different vibe from usual dramas – but not a drama for everyone.I first resisted in starting this when it was announced but I got so curious when the first episode aired, so I gave it a try and then waited every week till it was finally saturday to watch the new episode. I am sad that it is over now but I will definitely re-watch it.
As for the characters. I think most of them did a great job in portraing their characters. I think a lot of people can relate to Na Bi – as some might have similar experiences in life. For me, I saw a character development and I think she realized a few things during the drama that are very important for her life. The same for Jae Eon – I liked his development and I could see him struggle with his feelings just as I could see Nabi and the others struggle. Do Hyuk on the other hand did not have a big character development for me. I feel like he stayed quite the same over the drama, which is not a bad thing of course but I feel like he should have realized some things for his life as well.
The music – as already mentioned – was perfect. It matched the drama so well and made the whole atmosphere into something special. Whenever I listen to the OST I immediately get reminded of the drama, and that´s a good thing for me.
For me, as I do art myself, the art aspect was a plus point, which made the whole setting more attractive. And I have to mention that Na Bi´s sculpture at the end was stunning. I also liked the cooking scenes, as I enjoy cooking too.
Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they like the ending, if they want her to end up with Jae Eon, Do Hyuk or alone. And I believe eryone has the right to do so, and everyone should respect the opinion of the others. As for me, I am really happy with the ending and I would have been sad to see an other one! So this drama is definitely a 10/10 for me and I hope many other people will discover it and be as happy watching it as I was! (And it was the best to watch it when its dark with a few candles, to just forget the world and dive into the drama)
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A Good Show that Many Will Dislike but I enjoy
Note: This is a show where the ending is predictable and less important than the process. So spoilers won’t affect too much of your experience, or so I think.Let it be clear that many people will not like this show, even though it is a good show imo. One major reason for dislikes is probably that the main story of this show is about an ostensibly unhealthy relationship. There is no deny of it, and the show is conscious of the fact that the central romantic story is deeply unhealthy. In fact, the multiple relationships depicted in the show all have clear problems that are so unlikeable that most causal K-drama reviewers (esp. in the West) cannot tolerate. But this is not a show that tries to justify unhealthy relationships or glorify problems in romantic relationships. Rather, it is a show that depicts how an unhealthy relationship can gradually become a healthy one, and it has done a good job of telling such a story. If you can bear through the discomfort that the show brings and carries it till the end, you may find catharsis in the end and in how mature the show surprisingly is.
I will not focus on specific plots, since all shows carry some plot holes that affect the story. All I will say is that the plot holes of this show do not affect too much of my enjoyment of it. Instead, it is the topic of this show that I want to highlight in this review. As I said earlier, it is a show about gradually turning an apparently unhealthy relationship into a healthy one. Let us pause for a moment and appreciate the courage for staging an unhealthy relationship in a TV show. The show does not shy away from the fact that main characters are college students who are carried away by their hormones and have no clue of how to be earnest, caring, and accommodating in a relationship. The relationships that are hence developed bear the poisonous fruits such as unnecessary mind-game, dramatic and moronic dialogues, ridiculous breakups, silly stubbornness, and avoidable damage that are characteristic of dating experience of college age. These easily identifiable problems also make this show difficult for audiences who cannot bear with these problems. If you have passed the college age or rather, the age where these problems finally becomes manageable, you may find the show reminiscent of past experience and appreciate the fact that these real problems are being depicted in their raw discomfort. This is one reason why I like the show.
Another reason for my enjoyment and appreciation of the show is how mature the characters are in dealing with all the problems they have. They show the rare awareness of problems, precious willingness and may I say, unconscious wisdom to give in, confess to each other, and repair their relations. One particular moment captures my attention. In the end, when the male protagonist asks the female protagonist whether she will regret dating again after all the drama they went through, she says affirmatively that yes, she will regret. But she is still willing to try. This complex attitude can easily drive the hygienic minds crazy, but truly is touching to me, for it signals the rare passion that still burns brightly after deep disappointment. Another touching point is the choice of the female protagonist. In the end, she chooses not the person who would be best for her, but the person who she loves the most. It is a choice that no one can comfortably affirm that it is absolutely right or wrong, but an undoubtedly human choice that often does not follow “reason” and “logic.” Such an ending, therefore, can again be highly uncomfortable to many audience. But I appreciate and enjoy the openness of such depiction in a TV show. If I may add a third point, let’s look at the ending again. It is not only a reunification of the main characters, but an attempt to try again. This is yet another reason why I think Western audience may have a hard time with this show: When, in the pop culture of U.S. for instance, do you ever hear the recommendation to “try again” when a relationship falls apart? The most you hear is to “move on,” “break up,” esp. when one of the partners shows clear problems. Yet in here we see something different, an willingness and attempt to forgive and restart. Much can be said about it, and I will only point out that neither choice is clearly right, but a conscious attempt of “let’s try again” is harder than the default choice of “giving up.” These points are why I think that beneath the surface of a college romance, the show is surprisingly mature, esp. in the growth of characters and its expression of human experience.
I hope I have conveyed why I genuinely enjoyed t he show and why perhaps you may as well. Thanks for reading.
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No final, poderia ter sido melhor!
Eu gostei não vou mentirO tema do drama foi muito bom, tudo que relacionou a ele
Essa coisa mais realista, do relacionamento de pessoas mais jovens e o amor e além da representatividade com o casal das meninas.
O Jae eon sempre gostou dela mas o passado dele que nem explicou muito porque ele não gostava de relacionamentos o impediu de querer estar com ela né?
Acho que eles foram amadurecendo ao longo de tudo e ficou claro que ela não ficaria com o Do Hyeok.
Não sei, eu realmente não entendo muito como diferenciar, será que o Jae eon e ela estão num relacionamento abusivo?
Senti falta de falar sobre o passado dele na questão de relacionamento. Teve episódios bem lentinhos que poderia ter falado disso!
Enfim, acho que é isso que tenho pra falar.
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Did it for Sol and Ji Wan
I started this drama mid through with low expectations since all the comments I saw rambled about how toxic Na-bi and Jae eon´s relationship was. Well, ladies and gentlemen, the criticism is well deserved.The main couple´s relationship should have never worked out. Unfortunately. Well. We know how it went.
Whenever Na-bi was around Jae eon, she kept feeling insecure while second-guessing herself. She constantly repressed her feelings and words. The best way to exemplify this is by using her statements. "Jae eon keeps making me think the way my annoying ex did." "Jae eon makes me feel anxious." "My anxiety about Jae eon hasn´t disappeared, but..."
When I reached the last episode, I was so saturated that I couldn´t even stand to look at Jae eon´s face. No matter how much he redeemed himself, the past holds too much of their relationship. Progressing from that is not realistic. A continuance between their relationship is just toxic.
"-Na-bi, you know what? Flowers don´t bloom just for one butterfly."
"-What are you saying?"
"-Jae eon is like that flower. Full of vanity, a symbol of seductive beauty that withers once it´s plucked."
I wish Na-bi had listened to Bit Na. My girl knew what she was saying.
Truth be told I only completed this series for Sol and Ji Wan. They were my breath of fresh air. It would have been lovely if they could have more screen time, but I´m not too upset. Okay. I sort of am. You can´t tell me that you have time to give a "happy ending" to a toxic relationship, but not explore Ji Wan and Sol´s story properly.
It felt only appropriate to end this review with my favorite quotes. "Sol. Can you hold my hand again? I like you the most. I like you more than my mom and dad. You´re my favorite person in the world."
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tóxico e sem sal
Não vi muitos doramas, mas esse deve estar no meu top 5 dos piores. Não tenho muito o que criticar quanto à atuação, música, fotografia ou direção, mas o enredo é meio sem noção.(spoiler a partir daqui)
A protagonista é basicamente uma batata, que não tem vontade própria. Não toma nenhuma decisão por si só, e se arrepende de praticamente tudo que os outros decidem por ela. Quando surge uma oportunidade de fazer diferente ela deixa pra outra pessoa decidir novamente. Isso se repete até o último minuto do último episódio. A galera coreana curte essas paranóias?
O protagonista é um manipulador. Fãs mais determinados podem defender que ele deve ter algum trauma não explicado. Bem, quem não tem? kkkkk Mesmo sendo confirmadamente um babaca e traído a confiança da Na-Bi várias vezes, em toda oportunidade que aparece de explicar maus ententidos e apaziguar os ânimos, ele faz exatamente o contrário. A série dá a entender que ele supostamente tem algum interesse pela Na-Bi, mas quando surge algum boato e ele vê que ela tá sofrendo, faz questão de tirar sarro com a situação ou não falar nada. Não entendo de psiquiatria, mas talvez seja algum traço de psicopatia? O dorama se passa inteirinho nesse jogo de desprezo/atenção.
Se não fosse a quarentena, seria mais um dorama que eu teria dropado no primeiro episódio. Acabei dando uma chance torcendo pra Na-Bi se ferrar o suficiente pra pensar na própria vida (fui infeliz). Queria que tivessem desenvolvido melhor os personagens secundários, que mesmo com histórias clichês, ainda davam um calorzinho no coração. Comparado ao casal principal, a maior parte do tempo você fica se perguntando "que?" ou "como assim?" sem entender o que está acontecendo. Não é que a decisão seja estúpida, é que não faz sentido mesmo. A mina acabou de ter uma desfeita horrível com o relacionamento e se apaixona por outro maluco no mesmo dia num bar a ponto de sofrer emocionalmente toda vez que se encontram... isso faz algum sentido? Na vida real, em algum tempo ela se daria conta de que estava frágil emocionalmente, mas acabaram tentando romantizar essa confusão mental. E quando o Jae Eon pega outra menina na frente da casa da Na-Bi, ela vê, fica em pedaços e beija ele assim mesmo? UAHSDUHASUDHAHAS sabe, o problema aqui não é a atitude que ela toma, mas o processo antes disso. Ela se abala emocionalmente, briga com ele, ele diz que é daquele jeito, ela não aceita e depois finge amnésia -até aí ok, de repente ela decidiu meter o louco por um dia, mas não. Depois disso ela começa a surtar mais uma vez e põe a culpa no cara justo quando ele decidiu ser cara de pau o suficiente pra ser sincero uma vez na vida. Eu nem sabia mais o que eu estava vendo.
Do ep 1 ao 10 você vai ficar ofendido no lugar Na-Bi assistindo ela ser tratada como um pau de selfie - bem aleatório mesmo, às vezes você usa, às vezes não.
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Bem ruinzinho
Park Jae Eon ele é do tipo controlador que pode passar o rodo mas não quer que a pessoa que ele está ficando faça isso, ele quer determinar quando começa e quando termina as coisas, tanto que quando apareceu outro cara na vida da Na Bi ele fez questão de se aproximar mais dela e mostrar que ele estava ali. Ele não gosta de se comprometer e não mostra isso para as mulheres que ele fica, sempre dá falsas esperanças para elas.Quanto a Na Bi, ela tem baixa autoestima, saiu de um relacionamento tóxico e abusivo e criou uma dependência emocional por Park Jae Eon, ele mexia com seu psicológico (mas também ela não era florzinha toda que se mostrava no começo).
Ela tinha o amigo Do Hyuk, vulgo batatinha, que acabou se confessando e ela não tinha sentimentos além de amizade por ele e continuou dando esperanças ( ainda bem que pelo menos no fim ele se livrou dessa).
A princípio eu achava que Na Bi e Jae Eon tinham visões muito diferentes de futuro, mas no fim pra mim eles eram farinha do mesmo saco, porque ela sabia que não era amor, que iria sofrer e se arrepender mas ainda assim queria estar nessa enrola com ele.
Sério, cada um teria que ter seguido seu caminho separados e fazendo uma boa terapia.
Eu sinceramente prefiro os casais secundários principalmente a Bit Na e o Nam Kyu Hyun.
Nevertheless é uma romantização de relacionamento tóxico e o povo passando pano só porque o personagem era bonito.
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