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Please ignore the reviews and watch the drama for yourself !

I am not sure why this drama is rated low , however I enjoyed this . It was a real story between two people . I do agree with another reviewer that the drama showed emphasis on toxic relationships, but in 2022, most people in the world are in toxic relationships . Because , Broken people come together and fall in love ! The male lead definitely had some problems, I wished the drama was 16 episodes so we could had delve into his child hood more. I still don’t understand what was the point of bringing his friend /lover/and or gf from America , I didn’t quite get her role in the story and I still don’t know who she was to the lead guy lol. However, both leads were marvelous. I felt the passion between them and the hurt . I really lucked out and found a good drama and I will definitely rewatch it. Great steamy kiss scenes ! I enjoyed the side characters as well . Great Job Song Kang and Han So-hee!!!

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JUST LOVE ❤

Nevertheless is a mind blowing. and i like the girls attitude and kissing since how is awesome.
I love the main female role. i mine (yoo na bi) i like your performance.

(I LOVE IT ♡)

and and and sorry i have a no words to tell them

I hope so everyone enjoy it

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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(NA-BI I LOVE YOU♡)
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“big old waste of time”

As my little sister put it “that was a big old waste of time”

At the beginning this show was good fun to watch and commentate on how stupid everything was, from the plot to Nabi’s very dumb decisions, but then even that got boring. The story became uninteresting, Nabi and Jaeon’s relationship is just one long dumb cycle… they kiss, he’s a red flag so they go on a break and then miraculously they end up together again.

Nabi was just so dumb… I cannot understand how she still goes back to Jaeon time after time again, it makes no sense, especially with the second male lead who was so perfect.

Jaeon is a creep, his obsession over butterflies seems to be the only reason that he likes Nabi. He speaks in fragmented sentence and is always in Nabi’s personal space; this man really has no sense of awareness or boundaries whatsoever.

Nabi and Jaeon have no chemistry, they have no reason to like eachother; dialogue between them is just so so strange. Most of the time their “talks” would consist of Jaeon speaking in a fragmented sentence and then proceeding to kiss a very uncomfortable Nabi.

All of the side couple romance is boring. None of them could retain my attention except Sol and Ji-wan; their story is very cute, however, they have very short screen time. I would have loved to see their relationship more in depth.

As Do-Hyeok once described Nabi as, this show was very “disappointing”.

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jan 10, 2022
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Underrated and undervalued

I wanted to write a review for this drama because I think it is vastly underrated. Reading the comments it was clear that the toxic elements in the main relationship were a serious problem for a lot of people. As far as I’m concerned, showing toxic relationships is not a problem as long as the consequences are also honestly shown. And for me, this drama does that. There is a beautiful moment of show-not-tell in the very last scene which I will write at at the bottom as a spoiler. And that moment spoke volumes to me.

I thought it a beautifully insightful show about the types of relationships that happen in your inexperienced early twenties, when you are trying to live the fantasy of your adolescence and start to realise that a great deal more is required of you than you had expected. That however much you assumed it was going to be possible, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Love it seems, is not some magical thing that waves its wand over you and suddenly Cinderella is dressed for the ball. Excitement is not the only necessary ingredient or even the main ingredient. Trust, not manipulation, must be there and that is something that you need to work out how to build and then maintain.

Song Kang did a masterful job as the fb Park Jae Eon. So good in fact that there were many times I just wanted to slap him (metaphorically speaking). His character’s arc is about reliance on sex as the answer to all problems and what it takes for him to realise it is not the only answer and sometimes absolutely the wrong answer. A criticism would be that not enough time was spent on Park Jae Eon. His character transitions were there, but I could have done with a little more help, especially towards the end, in recognising them and understanding them. Time could have been stolen for it by omitting the somewhat bland relationship taking place in the office. As a viewer you need to work a bit, don’t just notice Jae Eon’s jealousy or his domesticity, but realise what those things mean.

Similarly, Han So Hee was also very good as the conflicted and self-doubting Yoo Na Bi. Again her reasoning was not always explicitly stated but hinted at all the time. Of the leads, only Chae Jong Heop as Yang Do Hyuk had a straightforward role which was because there was no significant character development. He played the nice guy nicely, what more can be said. It was not a demanding role. There was lots to like in the relationships of the supporting characters, which looked at different hurdles to be crossed in the relationship game. In particular Lee Ho Jung as Yoon Sol stood out.

This drama is not a romance about getting love right and living happily ever after. It’s about getting love wrong. It invites the viewer to observe the mess that we make of things with each other and what might be required to muddle along in a better way.

It is a good script, with credible dialogue, brought convincingly to life by an able female director and good actors. It showcased some great artworks (Na Bi’s sculpture at the end was stunning) and some beautiful cinematography. And for once, because it was a Netflix original, the sex scenes were realistic and believable.

This drama does not lay it all out for you, but requires your attention to detail and some thought. To really get the most from it I would recommend that you watch it twice (it’s only 10 episodes long, so not too onerous to do that) and track the development the second time round. You will see and understand much more once you know where it’s headed. If you are prepared to put in a little effort, it will not disappoint.

Spoiler ahead…



Spoiler ahead…



In the last scene, Na Bi almost drops Jae Eon’s hand when she sees Do Hyuk in a cafe with another girl. The look of naked panic and vulnerability on Song Kang’s face is what spoke volumes to me. Na Bi will leave Jae Eon behind quite quickly and he knows it. It is not Na Bi who will be hurt by this relationship. On the contrary she will gain confidence. He is the one who will be licking his wounds. I just hope to any sort of god that he doesn’t go to Paris with her, that would be just too painful!

What my rating means: 8+ A great drama with interesting content and good writing, direction, acting, OST, cinematography. But didn’t quite have the requisite sparkle to bump it into my all-time fave list. Worth watching.

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Nevertheless... NEVERMIND

Please Song Kang choose better proyects in the future. I thought that Love Alarm season 2 fiasco was a one time thing. Everybody makes mistakes, but Nevertheless came along...
Where do i start with this one? Perhaps... the things i liked?

The production value was consistent with Netflix' productions. Very beautiful and visually stunning scenes, nothing surprising there.

The two first episodes were solid, they provided a great set up for a potentially an "out of the box" romantic drama, but oh boy was i wrong.

The supporting characters were interesting, unfortunately more so than the leads. The same sex romance totally overshadowed the main characters' love arc. Midway the series i had lost all interest in the FL and that was fine, but to lose interest in Song Kang, that was just ludicrous. (Love alarm Season 2 was disastrous, but at least Song Kang remained gorgeous). Something was completely off with Nevertheless Song Kang's spark, his charm was missing in action. How can a production team managed to do that?
SACRILEGE!!

Would i rewatch this show? Probably yes, if i get paid to do so ;)

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Criminally underrated

Ok, I usually don't write reviews for anything but it just made my heart ache that this drama has such a low rating. I know it's not the typical romcom people are used to but it's much more realistic than most kdramas out there.

I think they managed to depict the raw type of human relationships in a very beautiful way. The main focus was on this on and off relationship between Na-bi and Jae-eon that could very easily be seen as toxic in real life. But let's talk about how amazing their interaction was. They didn't talk much but you could feel the sexual tension through the screen. I've watched over 50 dramas and none of them gave me that feeling. A very important factor here was the bgm. I absolutely loved each and every OST. I think they chose the perfect melody for every scene. It made me feel somehow cozy.

I know a lot of people said there was no character development or that the pace was too slow but the drama itself is short so just because the last 4 episodes were not as exciting doesn't make the drama bad. And again, Na-bi is a very normal average girl who is torned and confused and might need more time to make a decision but that doesn't make her dumb. I am actually happy she decided to give Jae-eon another chance because life can be like that sometimes. It illustrates the idea of living life without overthinking it.

Overall, I think it's a really beautiful drama but I also understand why some might find it difficult to watch without skipping through it. I would say, just give it a chance! It might surprise you~

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I can't look or think of butterflies in a normal way anymore thanks to butterfly guy

I'm watching Nevertheless and like I'm sooo gay for 2 characters (Bit-Na & Sol) but I'm also fucking hetero for song kang's character (even though he's RED FLAGS).

Also, Sol RADIATES GAY AS HELL TOO (which is honestly the cutest thing ever)

Park Jae Eon has fuckinh mad skills too. Like the writers, director and song kang really knew how to do that character well BECAUSE MY HEART EVEN FLUTTERED AND MY HEART NEEEEVER FLUTTERS.

I'm just so gay for Bit-Na and Sol. Bit-Na's whole look and personality had me gay. Sol, however, is like a bit masculine but if her hair is not tied she's suddenly FEMININE and both looks have me gaaaaay.

Lol I love song kang. He is literally my most seen actor of 2021 (because I watched Sweet home, Love alarm 2, Navillera, and now Nevertheless).  I gotta make sure before the year ends that lee dong wook is #1 & lee jong suk #2.

Red flags is also so nice at the moment, he saved girl when she had a period and no pads. But then he is like why can't we be close in a non platonic way without dating, which shattered the illusion big time..

Park Jae Eon is the definition of katy perry's hot and cold song.

I'M CRYING
I'M YELLING
I HAVE SECOND LEAD SYNDROME SOOOOO BAD
BECAUSE OF POTATO BOY. ALSO POTATO GUY DESERVED BETTER THAN HER! But how can anyone not chose him? I don't like that she doesn't chose him because I don't want potato guy's heart to be broken. He still deserves better than her though. His confession was adorable though. I just wanted him to have a happy ending. My precious baby, I feel so bad for him. I hate the writers for doing this to him.

Park Jae Eon is such an asshole. I really wished this was a show were she ended up with the nice guy or NOBODY AT ALL. I would have preferred both options than the actual solution. I really wished they stayed closer to the source.

It is really funny how I was living for red flags until I wasn't. I am apparently such a softie for soft boys. In the beginning I was like DAMN HE SMOOOOOOTH and then I just got annoyed about him and his shit. BUT HE DOES LOOK SO GOOD IN PINK OR PURPLE.

I'M SO EMO FOR POTATO GUY!!!!!

The gays are so cute though. Like we have one that knows she's in love with her best friend and the other one didn't realise she was in love with her best friend. I'm like UWU BABIES!

I also like the sudden budding friendship between park jae eon and hat guy. I also shipped the heck out of hat guy and Bit-Na.

The two undergraduates were soooo cute too.

It literally got a minus one for that stupid unrealistic ending. I'm not a fan of that ending, which is why it took me forever to actually finish it since I knew it was going to end like this. Kinda hate it though.

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Painfully Realistic!!!

I know a lot of people didn't like the story due to toxic characters, but I will try to explain why I liked every damn thing about this series.

Let's begin with the CAST. I don't think anyone could have played the roles better than the way they were portrayed. From the very first look at Park Jae Eon, I knew he was going to break everyone's heart, yet he justified his role and made us fall for him to the point that every time he would hurt Na-Bi, I would feel similar pain. I would say that's an ace in acting. Na Bi also played her part well; being soft and confused in places but also being firm when she understood she couldn't handle the complicated relationship anymore. As for Do Hyuk, he was the cute and the most uncomplicated green flag in the show. He was the true Angel but unfortunately, the Devil will always be too tempting!!!

OSTs: They were good, too good to say the least. Every composition was kind of made to amplify the emotional depth of the scene. That made the show a lot more heart-touching.

STORY: It was realistic to the point where at times it left me with a dreadful feeling. The attraction between Jae Eon and Na Bi basically begins with sexual tension, which is more relatable to our generation. They then decide to keep it simple by not defining their relationship in any terms; another relatable situation. But what made me feel awfully familiar with the situation was Na Bi's conflict over why she's torturing herself knowing things will only get worse and Jae Eon pulling back when the things matter the most. These two situations I have experienced a lot in my dating life. Being afraid of getting hurt or not letting your feelings show because you are internally conflicted are the most common reasons why compatible people can't stay together. Some may say these are toxic traits but if you think, you can't really avoid it because these insecurities stem from the past and you can't change that. I would also like to focus on the fact that both, Jae Eon and Na Bi never saw a successful romantic relationship of their single parents. That will leave some mental scars that were bound to affect their own dating life. It's easy for us to categorise red and green flags but in the end, when you are in a relationship, things are not that simple.

But their sexual tension was off the chart; half the time, I had to stop the scene inbetween cause I was fucking breathless. Song Kang is a pure representation of sex (I know it's sexualizing comment but it's also true)!! If I would have been in Na Bi's place, I would have also given in just for the whole sexual chemistry, consequences be damned!!

Side Note: I loved how they represented art and butterflies in the series. I am an Architecture graduate, so art holds a high place in my life. In this series, art played a huge role in reciprocating feelings between Na Bi and Jae Eon, which were open to interpretation by viewers. Example - Jae Eon making Butterfly Suncatcher and Bracelet for Na Bi might not mean anything to others but for me it was admirable. A guy putting effort into making something himself is a huge plus point. It made my heart beat a little fast and my brain fuzzy. I also think creative guys are hotter than nerdy smart ones!!!

Lastly, I have rated Rewatch Value at 8 because I don't think my heart could bear to go through the emotional torture twice. But I might watch Nevertheless again, maybe after a few years when I am romantically at a good place...

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you WILL get emotional a couple time

it was the perfect serie it had all a Kdrama needed for me I also liked the spicy scenes a lot?
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Apesar de tudo eu deveria ter desistido

Uma história chata com protagonistas chatos, como foi cansativo assistir esse drama, foi tedioso do início ao fim, a protagonista feminina me dava sono toda vez que entrava em cena, que personagem sem vida, sem ação sem opinião e manipulável ela simplesmente foi um objeto inanimado ali, o protagonista masculino fazia o que queria com ela, e ela sem um pingo de amor próprio esquecia tudo e corria toda vez para os braços dele. O que fez continuar foi os outros personagens, por que os protagonistas deixaram a desejar grandemente. Os atores principais pareciam cansados apáticos desanimados, nem as cenas de cama tinham liga. Por mim os protagonistas podiam deixar o drama no meio numa boa que não ia fazer falta nenhuma, torcia para isso acontecer o tempo todo, eles podiam pegar um avião para Paris e sumi do drama e ponto final acabou. Posso descrever esse drama para você apenas com duas palavras: cansativo e monótono.
Nada acontece realmente, a história é estagnada fica no mesmo lugar dando voltas e não desenvolve, foi bem doloroso de assistir, foram os 10 episódios mais longos que já vi na vida.

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I have mixed feelings about this drama. I was really excited when I started watching it because I've heard that it was made by women primarily and it touched upon issues of intimacy and love in the modern age between young people. I really liked the first episodes and the way it portrayed young people and especially women that try to find a balance between their studies/career and their love/social life. I also really appreciated that it showed actual scenes of intimacy between the two main characters as many dramas tend to avoid these kind of scenes . The female-lead was flawed and made mistakes , factors that made her more realistic and the same goes for the male-lead as well. The other characters even though many of them seemed unique and different and had a lot of potential , weren't so much part of the plot and their personalities weren't uncovered through the episodes . Unfortunately , during the last episodes the plot and the leading point of the story felt lost. The characters didn't grow , didn't mature , they felt stagnant or even even worse than they started for some reason.
Even though the series was somewhat refreshing to watch , the end felt anticlimactic in a way. I have to say though and really highlight that the soundtrack of the movie was really good . I enjoyed listening to songs from the alternative music scene of Korea , like the band Say Sue Me and also discovering the artist RIO. I really appreciate it when visuals are accompanied by beautiful music, it shows that more thought and care has been put so that the visual and listening experience is balanced.

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Being in love during your 20s

When I said I love nevertheless some ppl are surprised. That's why I write this post. Nevertheless is an ode to love, the variety and numerous loves that can exist during your 20s.

First of all I love Nabi, because of the magistral play of Han sohee, but also because of how realistic she is. She is not weak, she tries to find what she loves, who she loves. She stream, cry, laught. She said what she wants and be quiet when she needs it. She choose her relationship and tries to find what is the best for her. Truly realistic. It is not the behaviour of a huge part of the 20s girls ? It's mine. Of course Park Jaeon is problematic that's a fact, his toxic behaviour is not romanticised. We can thought nabi perspective, the real feeling, redflag, lust, love and anger against him. It's a mix and it's not easy. This drama is not about easy love and behaviour, it's about the hardship, how love and lust can be hard and a battle. Why you choose a man and not another. She literally cries during the reject scene. It's about choice, not a bad or a good one. Just choice and the really of life. Sometimes you don't choose the best person but the one you loves the most.

And it's not only about he lead couple. All the second lead. A lesbian couple ??? With so much scenes ? I was so happy When I see how realistic it is. Same for all the couples. This drama show all the loves, the different ideas of love and the choices you made to match your idea with the reality. Do you want to sacrifice your way of life for the one you love? Jiwan and Gyu Hyun symbolise that and compromise.

Anyway my 22 years on earth is glad to find a drama which show so many couples, ideas of love and desires, way to life. I feel so understand, this show is really how the beginning of my university years have been. And it have been deliver with so much accuracy.

Thanks for this drama.

all my love

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