Editing Suggestions

There are actually rules set in place for edits, as someone who edits a lot here on MDL, I know that if I edit something on this site it is first viewed by a member of staff here on MDL.

MDL has it's own approval staff that is set in place to approve or disapprove of edits that people want to make. If they disagree they will give you a reason to why, they may also ask you to give them further information or proof to why the information is true or needed.

Here are the rules/guild-lines for editing:

https://mydramalist.com/discussions/support/17285-guidelines-editing-and-submitting-new-dramas-movies-and-actors 

Despite saying this, it is true that there is no way in which editors can communicate (Unless with the approval staff).

Thank you, we will check out that site and see what we can learn from it.

 keebs777:

The website I refer to (Discogs) has a rather large rulebook and various guidelines for people to reference, but they still allow editing to be a very open and community driven aspect of their database. That's really what I'm attempting to suggest with this post.

MDL is community-driven like IMDb and MyAnimeList, but unlike AsianWiki and HanCinema. But if we open submission with no monitoring, lots of spam and fake info will be added. Every day we get 40% spam (especially adding fake actors to dramas) and 60% correct info. If we allow that, all hell will break loose with most people complaining and looking for other reliable sources, and leaving MDL cause MDL will be plagued with spam and fake content.

See AsianWiki and HanCinema, both are very big databases, none of them allow users to edit things and people regard them as reliable. No imaging, MDL as Wikipedia or other Wiki websites where a spammer could go to a less known page and wreak havoc and being noticed days or even weeks later. I personally don't not like that and might use other websites for reliable info.

Why fix something that is not broken? Is there a problem with edits being monitored? Also, you can use the comment section of the page to discuss edits. I agree with the edit history but disagree with the open submissions. Would users really prefer to keep checking up on pages every day and reverting spam? Only Wikipedia, there are mostly 10 users who are diligent and check up on pages, but it would be a hassle to keep going every day to every single page and check that good edits were not ruined by spammers and vandalized.

Maybe I see it as a big problem cause I approve and reject submissions and see the huge amount of spam that we get. 

 keebs777:

Suggesting that this community is unable to interpret the validity of information regarding the topics people here are passionate about is kind of doing a disservice to us users.

I'm not saying this. I'm saying that those changes might go unnoticed for a long time before someone discovers the fake info. I have been on Wikipedia and I see the fake info being added and the fights there daily. It seriously discouraged me from editing on Wikipedia because spammers or vandalizers could easily revert good edits to add their spam and nonsense. It was being done daily and I saw the good work of some people go to waste. I asked people about your suggestion here (because I wanted to see people's opinions as the feed page is more visited than the forums) and actually some people had the same experience I had on Wikipedia.

 keebs777:

I don't really see edits being discussed much on the pages I visit and if I do the conversation doesn't really go anywhere. I've personally asked edit questions and have received no reply from anyone. Maybe if people had more say as far as edits they'd be more open to discussing them.

See https://mydramalist.com/58827-miss-lee-knows comment section.  Also,  in this case, we see 2 very good editors, one wants this page to be 4 episode and the other wants it as 8 episodes. The number would keep changing if there is no one stopping them.

 keebs777:

I'm not trying to suggest taking away your approval positions - I'm glad that this site takes its reliability seriously - but spreading the wealth might do some good in the long run.

I'm not worried that I will be removed as it will be less work for me and I could focus more on adding missing films/actors, instead, I just worry that we will get spam and fake info. No one is restricting the users' ability to add things, just that it needs to be verified first and we approve it (which takes less than 24 hours). We never reject the correct info, and we do ask for sources if we can't verify the info.

I think what could work is adding edit history page and edit the discussion page to each drama/person/film page. Then a user sends in the submission linking the edit discussion and staff quickly review it and approve.

Or have users with over 1000+ edits able to automatically edit, but have staff monitor submissions from new users.

Honestly i like the sytem the way that it is set up, but I would add more staff for the Western half of the world so we dont have to wait for Europe To wake up and approve.  i would not trust Automation of edits and It may in all likehood cause me to leave the site if i find the things that I add are not being handled respectifully.

What I would like is a history of changes we make so we can remember all the things we need to follow up on.  Like a title that still needs an actor added or an actor that had 200 credits but I wasnt able to add them all.

 Old_Anime_Lady:

i would not trust Automation of edits and It may in all likehood cause me to leave the site if i find the things that I add are not being handled respectifully.

Editing wouldn't really be "automated," @Hessa just suggests that users who prolifically edit and have a 1000+ edit experience wouldn't have to wait for an edit to be approved like users do now. Theoretically someone who has that many edits under their belt would know what they're doing and would only add correct info. Like you for example, with 26,000+ edits I think it's safe to say you're a trusted MDL editor. Typical edit approval wouldn't be altered.

 Old_Anime_Lady:

But my editing has been altered before,  I added "THE HEAD" For example as it a co production with Japan but the Main language is English. After 6 months it was deleted from the database as someone deemed it not right to be in the database.  So even me with my 26,000 edits can err on side of Handsome actors lol. (I Made an IMDB list just so I can say I watched it lol..I am addicted to lists).

So that's why it disappeared! I thought I remembered wrong!  I always find it sad to not being able to add co-productions to my list (like the head , snowpiercer and Giri/Haji for example), so I get how you feel. >..<